Re: Hyperthreading and multi-threading [Are all cores unlocked?]

2010-09-27 Thread James Wilkinson
JD wrote: > Correct James. The clobbering of the cache by 2 different threads > does not depend on whether or not the cpu is hyperthreaded. > Any two threads can achieve this clobering on any cpu, and it is > often the case. This last sentence is true, but with normal multitasking, and no multi-th

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-25 Thread Michael Miles
JD wrote: > > On 09/25/2010 12:35 PM, James Wilkinson wrote: > >> Michael Miles wrote: >> >>> Thank's for the clear up. My question is with Hyperthreading that is if >>> each core does double duty so to speak by looking after two threads >>> would it not do basically the same work as one

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-25 Thread JD
On 09/25/2010 12:35 PM, James Wilkinson wrote: > Michael Miles wrote: >> Thank's for the clear up. My question is with Hyperthreading that is if >> each core does double duty so to speak by looking after two threads >> would it not do basically the same work as one core full bore on one thread. >

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-25 Thread James Wilkinson
Michael Miles wrote: > Thank's for the clear up. My question is with Hyperthreading that is if > each core does double duty so to speak by looking after two threads > would it not do basically the same work as one core full bore on one thread. > Is there a speed difference (faster, slower) Good

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-25 Thread Michael Miles
James Wilkinson wrote: > Michael Miles wrote: > >> I can't wait to see the Bulldozer series in action ( 16 cores >> Hyperthreaded) yeah baby.. >> > Unfortunately, Bulldozer doesn’t do conventional SMT (which is what > Intel usually¹ means by hyperthreading). It has two integer cor

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-25 Thread James Wilkinson
Michael Miles wrote: > I can't wait to see the Bulldozer series in action ( 16 cores > Hyperthreaded) yeah baby.. Unfortunately, Bulldozer doesn’t do conventional SMT (which is what Intel usually¹ means by hyperthreading). It has two integer cores sharing a wide floating point engine and

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 09/22/2010 09:54 AM, Michael Miles wrote: > As far as the speed being low the units have power saving features so > when your not at load the processors will clock down. > Disable all the power saving features in the Bios and you will see your > speed go up to normal. You'll also find that your

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:54:51AM -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > fred smith wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:26:02AM -0700, JD wrote: > > > >> > >> On 09/22/2010 06:05 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > >> > >>> cat /proc/cpuinfo > >>> processor : 0 > >>> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > >>> cpu fa

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread suvayu ali
On 22 September 2010 15:44, JD wrote: > On 09/22/2010 03:09 PM, suvayu ali wrote: >> On 22 September 2010 13:00, JD  wrote: >>> I wish I could find a program that could actually >>> test the cpu MHz >> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq >> > $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread JD
On 09/22/2010 03:09 PM, suvayu ali wrote: > On 22 September 2010 13:00, JD wrote: >> I wish I could find a program that could actually >> test the cpu MHz > cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq > $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq cat: /sys/devices/s

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread suvayu ali
On 22 September 2010 13:00, JD wrote: > I wish I could find a program that could actually > test the cpu MHz cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Michael Miles
JD wrote: > > On 09/22/2010 10:56 AM, Kenneth Marcy wrote: > >> On Sep 22, 2010, JD wrote: >> >> On my notebook, which has an old 2.2 GHz athlon65 uniicore (3700+), >> cpuinfo shows cpu MHz as 798.103 >> >> OK >> >> Does that mean that as I am typing this message, the cpu is running >> at onl

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread suvayu ali
On 22 September 2010 13:00, JD wrote: > I wish I could find a program that could actually > test the cpu MHz cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu?/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or ch

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread JD
On 09/22/2010 10:56 AM, Kenneth Marcy wrote: > On Sep 22, 2010, JD wrote: > > On my notebook, which has an old 2.2 GHz athlon65 uniicore (3700+), > cpuinfo shows cpu MHz as 798.103 > > OK > > Does that mean that as I am typing this message, the cpu is running > at only 790MHz?? > > Approximately

Re: Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Kenneth Marcy
On Sep 22, 2010, JD wrote: On my notebook, which has an old 2.2 GHz athlon65 uniicore (3700+), cpuinfo shows cpu MHz as 798.103 OK Does that mean that as I am typing this message, the cpu is running at only 790MHz?? Approximately, yes. Your machine is also not discharging its battery quite so

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread JD
On 09/22/2010 09:58 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > while [ 1 ] ; do echo -n ; done& sleep 10s; cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep MHz ; > kill %1 Nop! did not work -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/list

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 09:49 -0700, Michael Miles wrote: > > > > > All amd processors are either locked (Multiplier set) or unlocked (Black > Editions , unlocked multiplier) > Which means the multiplier can be raised to adjust the cpu speed. > I think you are thinking the cores themselves are

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 09:26 -0700, JD wrote: > On my notebook, which has an old 2.2 GHz athlon65 uniicore (3700+), > cpuinfo shows cpu MHz as 798.103 > > Does that mean that as I am typing this message, the cpu is running > at only 790MHz?? > How an I speed it up? First, please don't hijack threa

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Michael Miles
fred smith wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:26:02AM -0700, JD wrote: > >> >> On 09/22/2010 06:05 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: >> >>> cat /proc/cpuinfo >>> processor : 0 >>> vendor_id : AuthenticAMD >>> cpu family : 16 >>> model : 4 >>> model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 5

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 09:05 -0400, Terry Polzin wrote: > cat /proc/cpuinfo Nope. Only two cores are active. - Gilboa -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedor

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Michael Miles
JD wrote: > > On 09/22/2010 06:05 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > >> cat /proc/cpuinfo >> processor: 0 >> vendor_id: AuthenticAMD >> cpu family : 16 >> model: 4 >> model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor >> stepping : 3 >> cpu MHz : 800.000 >> cach

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread fred smith
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:26:02AM -0700, JD wrote: > > > On 09/22/2010 06:05 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > > cat /proc/cpuinfo > > processor : 0 > > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > > cpu family : 16 > > model : 4 > > model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor > > stepping: 3

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread JD
On 09/22/2010 06:05 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > cat /proc/cpuinfo > processor : 0 > vendor_id : AuthenticAMD > cpu family: 16 > model : 4 > model name: AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor > stepping : 3 > cpu MHz : 800.000 > cache size: 512 KB > physica

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread JB
Terry Polzin wowway.com> writes: > ... Hi, you probably want to see the CPUs here: $ cat /proc/interrupts JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproj

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Terry Polzin
On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 10:01 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/22/2010 09:05 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > > cat /proc/cpuinfo > > What is your question? You have an AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor > (which is dual-core) and that output show

Re: Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/22/2010 09:05 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: > cat /proc/cpuinfo What is your question? You have an AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor (which is dual-core) and that output showed two processors (processor 0 and processor 1) - -- Stephen Gallagher RHC

Are all cores unlocked?

2010-09-22 Thread Terry Polzin
cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 16 model : 4 model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor stepping: 3 cpu MHz : 800.000 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 0 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu c