pe, 2011-01-21 kello 13:03 -0500, Máirín Duffy kirjoitti:
> Point well-taken and thank you for the lovely compliment. I'm just a
> bit
> worried about adding more things-to-learn / more
> software-to-download /
> more things-to-do / more time taken to the workload of the types of
> users we're try
On Sat, 2011-01-22 at 20:16 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 13:03 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > The biggest challenge in not losing folks before they even give Fedora
> > a chance is making it easy when they have to figure out how to get the
> > ISO to optical media or to USB (the latter
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 13:03 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> The biggest challenge in not losing folks before they even give Fedora
> a chance is making it easy when they have to figure out how to get the
> ISO to optical media or to USB (the latter which can be really
> challenging.) Weighing the pros
Hi Máirín,
2011/1/21 Máirín Duffy :
> Point well-taken and thank you for the lovely compliment. I'm just a bit
> worried about adding more things-to-learn / more software-to-download /
> more things-to-do / more time taken to the workload of the types of
> users we're trying to capture to make so
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 19:51 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 01:06:27PM -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote:
> > Yeh, it was our intention to have mirror manager generate a URL for
> > those download buttons that made the most sense given geographical
> > location, but that got dropped due
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 01:06:27PM -0500, M?ir?n Duffy wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 10:41 +1030, Tim wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:22 -0500, M??ir??n Duffy wrote:
> > > From talking to numerous novice users in the design of the site I'm
> > > not convinced that a checksum file is something
On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 10:41 +1030, Tim wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:22 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > From talking to numerous novice users in the design of the site I'm
> > not convinced that a checksum file is something that novice users are
> > aware of or much concerned about.
>
> Ignoran
Hi Suvayu,
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 23:10 +0100, suvayu ali wrote:
> 2011/1/20 Máirín Duffy :
> > Proposal -
> >
> > Mockup:
> > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/fedoraproject.org/verify/verify.png
> I understand your motivation for the design is to make it easy for
> users, new and old alike
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:22 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> From talking to numerous novice users in the design of the site I'm
> not convinced that a checksum file is something that novice users are
> aware of or much concerned about.
Ignorance is no excuse, as they old saying goes, and it's somethi
Hi Máirín,
2011/1/20 Máirín Duffy :
> Proposal -
>
> Mockup:
> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/fedoraproject.org/verify/verify.png
>
I wanted to add something, I didn't find the verify link in the
sidebar in the least bit difficult to find in the first place. However
although your proposa
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:53 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > Proposal -
> >
> > Mockup:
> > http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/fedoraproject.org/verify/verify.png
>
> Shouldn't the teddy bears be penguins? :-).
>
> On a more serious note: A lot of people (me for sure) like to know
> what they
> Proposal -
>
> Mockup:
> http://duffy.fedorapeople.org/webdesign/fedoraproject.org/verify/verify.png
Shouldn't the teddy bears be penguins? :-).
On a more serious note: A lot of people (me for sure) like to know
what they are getting into before they just blindly download something.
I'd rather
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:22 -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> There is a link to 'Verify download' on every one of the download pages
> in the right-hand column. That being said, it doesn't appear on the
> post-download splash and we would be happy to consider adding a link to
> the verify page (http
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 18:01 +, g wrote:
> until some people get there heads out of their butts and put what is
> needed on pages and cut out all the links, 'aunt tillie' can use a
> torrent download, which is self checking.
Grow up.
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Hi Armelius,
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 12:39 -0500, Armelius Cameron wrote:
> Hello,
> I know Fedora try to be more user friendly, and the website design that
> points
> to the various download options reflects that. But I think one signficant
> thing
> is missing: the CHECKSUM file is not easily
On 01/20/2011 11:16 AM, g wrote:
> On 01/20/2011 04:24 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
>> g wrote:
>>> they do not understand that there is no "for" in "kiss".
>> It's late here, so pardon my terseness, but in the spirit of free
>> software, patches are welcome. Or, as the websites team says:
>>
>>
On 01/20/2011 04:24 AM, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> g wrote:
>> they do not understand that there is no "for" in "kiss".
>
> It's late here, so pardon my terseness, but in the spirit of free
> software, patches are welcome. Or, as the websites team says:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Website
On 01/19/2011 11:02 PM, Tim wrote:
> As much as I dislike absolute step-by-step instructions, particularly as
> they (usually) leave you in the lurch when you can't do one of the
> steps, it's not that hard to make a page that says:
*well said*.
now, if they will only *do it*.
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g wrote:
> they do not understand that there is no "for" in "kiss".
It's late here, so pardon my terseness, but in the spirit of free
software, patches are welcome. Or, as the websites team says:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Websites/ShowUs
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Tim:
>> So every time I do this, I have to look up instructions, and hunt
>> around for them and the right checksum file.
g:
> it would be nice if fedora site was setup so that everything,
> releases, iso files, software packages, new and archives, where
> accessible via a better, single, ftp layo
On 01/19/2011 05:59 AM, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 18:01 +, g wrote:
>> torrent download, which is self checking.
>
> Only against changes to the content of the file being downloaded (that
> what> you started to download, is the same as what the uploader provided).
>
> You need to *se
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 18:01 +, g wrote:
> torrent download, which is self checking.
Only against changes to the content of the file being downloaded (that
what you started to download, is the same as what the uploader
provided).
You need to *separately* check the file against another source
Armelius Cameron wrote:
> There's this box that says: "What should I do with this ISO file?"
> and a link to instruction. The second page on the instruction ask to
> "Verify the download", but again, no link to point to the CHECKSUM,
> or how to even verify the download.
There are links to the CHE
On 01/18/2011 11:31 PM, g wrote:
>
> until some people get there heads out of their butts and put what is
> needed on pages and cut out all the links, 'aunt tillie' can use a
> torrent download, which is self checking.
>
> and yes, 'aunt tillie' can get torrent downloader for msbsos.
Grotesque la
On 01/18/2011 05:39 PM, Armelius Cameron wrote:
> Hello, I know Fedora try to be more user friendly, and the website design
> that points to the various download options reflects that. But I think one
> signficant thing is missing: the CHECKSUM file is not easily accesible. How
> can a novice user
Hello,
I know Fedora try to be more user friendly, and the website design that points
to the various download options reflects that. But I think one signficant thing
is missing: the CHECKSUM file is not easily accesible. How can a novice user
know how to check that his/her download is correct an
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