Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-27 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > [...] > Note: I have a multiboot system (running openSUSE/Ubuntu and trying Fedora > on it) any advice on that? Since Fedora can't detect Ubuntu I usually don't > install fedora Grub and then from within Ubuntu update the grub. (keeping >

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-27 Thread suvayu ali
2011/12/28 夜神 岩男 : > Anyway, if Intel/nVidia made fiscal sense we would be deploying that. I > assume we would have had a similar learning curve with their drivers or > noveau. My point is most of this stuff actually works fine on most chipsets > if you can get around to making the drivers make sen

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-27 Thread 夜神 岩男
On 12/28/2011 06:05 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: On 12/27/2011 01:54 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:37, Kevin Martin wrote: Here's the thingit's difficult to buy a laptop today that doesn't have an nVidia video card and so it behooves nVidia That´s because you surely

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-27 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On 12/27/2011 01:54 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 12:37, Kevin Martin wrote: Here's the thingit's difficult to buy a laptop today that doesn't have an nVidia video card and so it behooves nVidia That´s because you surely choose CPUs from the Wintel monopoly. ;-) If

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 25.12.2011, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > The main was stuck at boot, after first reboot and installing Nvidia > drivers. This is not a Fedora issue, but an nvidia one. The nvidia drivers are proprietary software, which means that you're on your own. Switching to another distribution won't help e

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-26 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
On 12/25/2011 11:56 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/25/2011 02:52 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: As mentioned, collecting data may be helpful. If you reinstall Fedora 16 and it works initially, try to find out whether applying Updates reproduces the problem. Save the full list of installed packages_prior

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-26 Thread LinuxIsOne
On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > Mr Craig. My Name is Swapnil Bhartiya. I write for Muktware.com, I used to > be an editor of LINUX For You magazine. While your 'skepticism' is > appreciated, please don't club me with trolls. And the same was I telling him that he is mi

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-26 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
Had to search for it, because it didn't sound familiar and "yum search fedora utils" also didn't find it. Apparently, you refer to http://fedorautils.sourceforge.net/ which is not include with Fedora. Yes. That's what I meant. First time when system broke, we thought it might have caused it. In

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-26 Thread Craig White
I am > simply asking about being able to use Fedora. > > > Now I'm not saying that he's not worth helping but the drama about > > 'giving up on Fedora' or 'writing an article for a magazine' or > > whatever... just seems to accumulate. > &

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
.com/bitsnbytes/3027 And. I have technical problem for which I seek help. Sharing all the info needed. I am not asking about whether I use Ubuntu or Fedora. I am simply asking about being able to use Fedora. Now I'm not saying that he's not worth helping but the drama about 'givin

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread LinuxIsOne
us ID's (he calls it > nymshifting but I never heard the term before). > Now I'm not saying that he's not worth helping but the drama about > 'giving up on Fedora' or 'writing an article for a magazine' or > whatever... just seems to accumulate. Real

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:59:14 -0700, CW (Craig) wrote: > you realize of course that this is just another id for /Linux is > One/Linux Tyro/Rameshwar Kr. Sharma/ Could be true, doesn't change much. Given the amount of traffic on this list, I comment on random posts I run into or on specific topics

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Craig White
calls it nymshifting but I never heard the term before). Now I'm not saying that he's not worth helping but the drama about 'giving up on Fedora' or 'writing an article for a magazine' or whatever... just seems to accumulate. Craig -- This message has been scanned

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Larry Brower
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 12/25/2011 03:30 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > And this is a snap of the error on Dell XPS. > http://ubuntuone.com/6nVaGW1YHkXnHiFZ3rp9DR > > Have you tried an older kernel? I have seen something similar to this occur on CentOS once and rever

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 14:56:41 -0800, JZ (Joe) wrote: > On 12/25/2011 02:52 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > As mentioned, collecting data may be helpful. If you reinstall Fedora 16 > > and it works initially, try to find out whether applying Updates > > reproduces the problem. Save the full list of

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/25/2011 02:52 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: As mentioned, collecting data may be helpful. If you reinstall Fedora 16 and it works initially, try to find out whether applying Updates reproduces the problem. Save the full list of installed packages_prior_ to applying updates, e.g. "rpm -qa --la

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/25/2011 02:32 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: I am not giving up but since I can't even boot into the system I can't do anything for my work and have to use openSUSE for my work -- which I am happy with, but need Fedora for my articles. Are you able to boot into rescue mode? If so, you'd hav

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:32:50 +0100, SB (Swapnil) wrote: > I can't say as when 16 was released I installed it on my PC and it > worked for almost a week. Once the error came, What was the last thing you did before "the error came"? Did you install any update packages? > it was belived Fedora Ut

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
Here is the link of thread for Nvidia card. That issues in un resolved. As I stated Fedora has failed on both machines, one with Nvidia card (error on below link) http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/405561 That's not much info to comment on :(, just from two weeks ago, an

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:30:23 +0100, SB (Swapnil) wrote: > > And the link is missing here. > > Here is the link of thread for Nvidia card. That issues in un resolved. > As I stated Fedora has failed on both machines, one with Nvidia card > (error on below link) > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
No, you aren't forced to make a drama out of it. Also, some lines of your message read as if your decision to give up is not final yet. No, I have not given up on it. I don't want to give up on Fedora. I need it for my articles. Where are the details? A screenshot or earlier error messages.

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
Please be sure that this line is according to me, don't think it in general, people in Fedora are more innovative, if you need an highly innovative system, use Fedora (yes), but you have to regularly ask the things here but if you need to work some other things, you should need a stable version, I

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Roger
The main was stuck at boot, after first reboot and installing Nvidia drivers. This is not a Fedora issue, but an nvidia one. The nvidia drivers are proprietary software, which means that you're on your own. Switching to another distribution won't help either, unless they use a fixed version of

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Pete Travis
On Sun, 2011-12-25 at 13:55 +0100, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > Hi, > > I did not want that subject line, but am forced to. > > I have been writing about Fedora on Muktware and the review was massive > hit -- around 80,000 reads. Users liked the review and our articles. But > since now I myself am

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/25/2011 04:55 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: The main was stuck at boot, after first reboot and installing Nvidia drivers. How did you install them? Did you use the binary blob, kmod-nvidia or akmod-nvidia? I ask because the first method is most likely to give you trouble, especially aft

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 13:55:18 +0100, SB (Swapnil) wrote: > I did not want that subject line, but am forced to. No, you aren't forced to make a drama out of it. Also, some lines of your message read as if your decision to give up is not final yet. > fix and started using openSUSE. Just today the

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Kevin Martin
On 12/25/2011 10:00 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 25.12.2011, Kevin Martin wrote: > >> I have a system hang at least once a day these days running either the >> nVidia or the nouveau drivers against the >> latest rawhide kernels. > I have never used any distribution kernel longer than during the

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 25.12.2011, Kevin Martin wrote: > I have a system hang at least once a day these days running either the nVidia > or the nouveau drivers against the > latest rawhide kernels. I have never used any distribution kernel longer than during the distr. installation period, and have never encounter

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Kevin Martin
On 12/25/2011 09:25 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 25.12.2011, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > >> The main was stuck at boot, after first reboot and installing Nvidia >> drivers. > This is not a Fedora issue, but an nvidia one. The nvidia drivers are > proprietary software, which means that you're on you

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Lio
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Lio wrote: > Personally asking you: did you ever give openSUSE a try? If not, try > that and check the results, I bet you would be more happy. Please be sure that this line is according to me, don't think it in general, people in Fedora are more innovative, if yo

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Lio
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: > I have been writing about Fedora on Muktware and the review was massive hit > -- around 80,000 reads. Users liked the review and our articles. But since > now I myself am not able to run Fedora on both my machine I don't know how > to wri

Re: Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 12/25/2011 05:55 AM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: Hi, I did not want that subject line, but am forced to. I have been writing about Fedora on Muktware and the review was massive hit -- around 80,000 reads. Users liked the review and our articles. But since now I myself am not able to run Fedo

Giving Up On Fedora

2011-12-25 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
Hi, I did not want that subject line, but am forced to. I have been writing about Fedora on Muktware and the review was massive hit -- around 80,000 reads. Users liked the review and our articles. But since now I myself am not able to run Fedora on both my machine I don't know how to write ab