Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-09-02 Thread Reindl Harald
while going on toilet somebody could have installed a keylogger in my user-profile or even somebody managed it to put in a USB stick with a unknown exploit *prove it* or stop FUD like Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ at least stop it on the *Fedora* users list signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-31 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 31.08.2013, agraham wrote: Right now I'm looking for answers and a forum in which to discuss this. If you have *proof* for your statements, go to the Linux Kernel Mailinglist and let them show what you have. You could even send a mail to Linus directly. Here's what I consider to be proof

Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread agraham
As you will all remember, a few years ago we kernel.org was hacked, I cannot remember if that was ever resolved, but then we did not know about the NSA Spying programs. We must assume as a matter of defence in depth that the kernel has been compromised and has being for quite some time now.

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread g
On 08/30/2013 04:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: in addition to Fernando's comments, you really do not have room to talk about someone hacking. why? simple, _you_hacked_ the modeprobe thread. it is excusable by some, but it is disliked by many. myself for one. if you have something to say

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, agraham agra...@g-b.net wrote: I KNOW we can overcome this adversary and regain the freedom that the internet once offered. What? You must have been living under a rock. The Echelon spy network was exposed back in 1999, way before even 9/11

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 08/30/2013 12:35 PM, agraham wrote: As you will all remember, a few years ago we kernel.org was hacked, I cannot remember if that was ever resolved http://www.pcworld.com/article/239400/hack_or_no_hack_the_linux_kernel_is_well_protected.html -- users mailing list

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread agraham
On 08/30/2013 10:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, agrahamagra...@g-b.net wrote: I KNOW we can overcome this adversary and regain the freedom that the internet once offered. What? You must have been living under a rock. The Echelon spy network was exposed back in

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread suvayu ali
All of this is off-topic on this list. This has nothing to do with Fedora specific help, or usage. Please take the discussion elsewhere. Thank you, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread agraham
Where would you suggest the best place? All of this is off-topic on this list. This has nothing to do with Fedora specific help, or usage. Please take the discussion elsewhere. Thank you, Open source is the future. It sets us free - or locks us up. -- users mailing list

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Bill Oliver
On Sat, 31 Aug 2013, agraham wrote: Where would you suggest the best place? Well, the Electronic Frontier Foundation is getting pretty active. I'd go there:https://www.eff.org/ and give monetary support to their legal initiatives. billo -- users mailing list

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread g
On 08/30/2013 08:34 PM, agraham wrote: Where would you suggest the best place? i would tell you, but i would get monitored and barred from this forum for extensive profanity. which i do try to maintain myself above. i _was_ trying to be polite in my first post to your thread

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread jdow
On 2013/08/30 14:53, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, agraham agra...@g-b.net wrote: I KNOW we can overcome this adversary and regain the freedom that the internet once offered. What? You must have been living under a rock. The Echelon spy network was exposed back in

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread jdow
On 2013/08/30 18:24, agraham wrote: On 08/30/2013 10:53 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:35 PM, agrahamagra...@g-b.net wrote: I KNOW we can overcome this adversary and regain the freedom that the internet once offered. What? You must have been living under a rock. The

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread jdow
Not here. Given your point of origin you certainly appear to be a troll. Bug the kernel list. The results might be amusing. {^_^} On 2013/08/30 18:34, agraham wrote: Where would you suggest the best place? All of this is off-topic on this list. This has nothing to do with Fedora

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread agraham
On 08/31/2013 01:36 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 08/30/2013 12:35 PM, agraham wrote: As you will all remember, a few years ago we kernel.org was hacked, I cannot remember if that was ever resolved http://www.pcworld.com/article/239400/hack_or_no_hack_the_linux_kernel_is_well_protected.html

Re: Linux Kernel Hacked by NSA/GCHQ

2013-08-30 Thread Roger
Those are not the types of solutions I was thinking of and in fact before solutions, we need to know if/what/was/when compromised in the kernel, or did you miss the Give me a list of compromised machines. Who cares! It's old news! it's not hacked now and that's the point! -- users mailing