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2019-05-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/11/19 3:40 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: [bobg@bobg bobg]$ sudo tcptraceroute 118.214.253.200 [sudo] password for bobg: Running:     traceroute -T -O info 118.214.253.200 traceroute to 118.214.253.200 (118.214.253.200), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets  1  router.viasatmodem.com (192.168.1.1)  0.35

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2019-05-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/12/19 6:40 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 05/11/19 18:31, Ed Greshko wrote: >> That "probably" is it.  But just for completeness, what do you get for... >> >>   sudo tcptraceroute 118.214.253.200 > . > Supper time here, gotta go ... > > [bobg@bobg bobg]$ sudo tcptraceroute 118.214.253.200 > [

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2019-05-11 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/11/19 18:31, Ed Greshko wrote: That "probably" is it.  But just for completeness, what do you get for...  sudo tcptraceroute 118.214.253.200 . Supper time here, gotta go ... [bobg@bobg bobg]$ sudo tcptraceroute 118.214.253.200 [sudo] password for bobg: Running:     traceroute -T -O in

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2019-05-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/12/19 5:26 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 05/11/19 17:16, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 5/12/19 4:49 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: >>> >>> On 05/09/19 07:23, Ed Greshko wrote: Your Viasat Modem has 2 interfaces.  The interface that connects to the Radio Equipment, does it have an IP addres

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2019-05-11 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/11/19 17:16, Ed Greshko wrote: On 5/12/19 4:49 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 05/09/19 07:23, Ed Greshko wrote: Your Viasat Modem has 2 interfaces.  The interface that connects to the Radio Equipment, does it have an IP address?  Do you know what it is? . No, I've decided that I probably

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2019-05-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/12/19 4:49 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 05/09/19 07:23, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Your Viasat Modem has 2 interfaces.  The interface that connects to the >> Radio Equipment, >> does it have an IP address?  Do you know what it is? > . > No, I've decided that I probably don't know what that addre

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2019-05-11 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/09/19 07:23, Ed Greshko wrote: Your Viasat Modem has 2 interfaces.  The interface that connects to the Radio Equipment, does it have an IP address?  Do you know what it is? . No, I've decided that I probably don't know what that address is. I set out assuming it was 192.168.1.1 like it

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2019-05-11 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Because most ISPs will only assign one IP to each customer. Ed Greshko: > My ISP gave me 4722366482869645213696 IP addresses. > > OK, they are IPv6 addresses. :-) :-) Aussie ISPs are still dragging their feet on supporting IPv6. They should have been getting it ready MANY years ago. _

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2019-05-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/10/19 1:25 PM, Tim via users wrote: > Because most ISPs will only assign one IP to each customer. My ISP gave me 4722366482869645213696 IP addresses. OK, they are IPv6 addresses.  :-) :-) -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme __

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2019-05-11 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Thu, 2019-05-09 at 15:14 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > On 05/09/19 07:23, Ed Greshko wrote: > > So, your network kinda looks like the attached. (no switch in my > > diagram) > > > > Your Viasat Modem has 2 interfaces. The interface that connects to > > the Radio Equipment, > > does it have a

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2019-05-09 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2019-05-09 at 15:14 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > If I put the viasat unit into it's bridged mode I would expect output > as 182.168.1.1 but not sure of that. If you put it into bridge mode, it'll have the public IP that the ISP assigns to you (previously that IP would have just been interna

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2019-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/9/19 12:14 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: It's not clear to me how this could work? I have an identical ASUS router in the barn set up as a bridge and it seems useless for anything else. I know that I can't access it's browser set up function without bringing it in here and plugging a cat5 cable i

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2019-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/10/19 8:28 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 10May2019 07:13, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 5/10/19 2:01 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> On 5/9/19 4:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: If I were trying to get this working I would make sure the Interface of the ASUS was something like 192.168.1.5 and

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2019-05-09 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 10May2019 07:13, Ed Greshko wrote: On 5/10/19 2:01 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/9/19 4:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: If I were trying to get this working I would make sure the Interface of the ASUS was something like 192.168.1.5 and I would run the ASUS in Bridge mode. This way everything on yo

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2019-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/10/19 2:01 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/9/19 4:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> If I were trying to get this working I would make sure the Interface of the >> ASUS was >> something like 192.168.1.5 and I would run the ASUS in Bridge mode. >> >> This way everything on your network could have IP ad

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2019-05-09 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/09/19 07:23, Ed Greshko wrote: So, your network kinda looks like the attached.  (no switch in my diagram) Your Viasat Modem has 2 interfaces.  The interface that connects to the Radio Equipment, does it have an IP address?  Do you know what it is?  And the second interface connects to

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2019-05-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/9/19 4:23 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: If I were trying to get this working I would make sure the Interface of the ASUS was something like 192.168.1.5 and I would run the ASUS in Bridge mode. This way everything on your network could have IP addresses of 192.168.1.X There should be no reason to

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2019-05-09 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 9 May 2019, Bob Goodwin sent: > Everything I have read says Viasat's equipment must be used. ... It > also contains a voip adapter for the telephone, before this "system > upgrade" two months ago that was separate. If it's a standard VOIP thing, then you probably can continu

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2019-05-09 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 9 May 2019 at 07:21, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 05/07/19 20:17, Tony Su wrote: > > I've posted several times over the past 8 months or so about the > > equipment I've been using on Cox and Spectrum, I don't even have to > > tell the ISP what equipment I'm using... I just tell them I'm us

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2019-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/9/19 6:43 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 05/09/19 06:29, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Wasn't it pointed out quite some time ago that 2 devices can't have the same >> IP address? >> >> You show your Viasat Modem and ASUS Router as both having 192.168.1.1. > . > Yes and understood. The diagram simply

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2019-05-09 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/09/19 06:29, Ed Greshko wrote: Wasn't it pointed out quite some time ago that 2 devices can't have the same IP address? You show your Viasat Modem and ASUS Router as both having 192.168.1.1. . Yes and understood. The diagram simply shows what I have to start with, the new router/modem

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2019-05-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/9/19 6:20 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Any further suggestions appreciated Wasn't it pointed out quite some time ago that 2 devices can't have the same IP address? You show your Viasat Modem and ASUS Router as both having 192.168.1.1. -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What

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2019-05-09 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 05/07/19 20:17, Tony Su wrote: I've posted several times over the past 8 months or so about the equipment I've been using on Cox and Spectrum, I don't even have to tell the ISP what equipment I'm using... I just tell them I'm using my own equipment on the Service Order, then hook up my own e

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2019-05-07 Thread Tony Su
I also endorse using your own equipment although some equipment might be a little bit of an adventure. I've posted several times over the past 8 months or so about the equipment I've been using on Cox and Spectrum, I don't even have to tell the ISP what equipment I'm using... I just tell them I'm

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2019-04-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/21/19 16:46, Samuel Sieb wrote: emorable ... That is a different "bridged mode" than what we've been referring to. If you can't set the modem to bridged mode, then you need to change it's IP subnet to something other than 192.168.1.0/24.  If the modem and your router are both using t

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2019-04-21 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/21/19 10:56 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/21/19 13:19, Mike Wright wrote: Basically it will say the same thing.  Put your Viasat modem/router into BRIDGED mode.  That's all you have to do. . Mike, I would be happy to do that but I have gone over the Viasat router configuration menus and f

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2019-04-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/21/19 13:19, Mike Wright wrote: Basically it will say the same thing.  Put your Viasat modem/router into BRIDGED mode.  That's all you have to do. . . Mike, I would be happy to do that but I have gone over the Viasat router configuration menus and found nothing to select Bridged mode.

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2019-04-21 Thread Mike Wright
On 4/21/19 10:19 AM, Mike Wright wrote: On 4/21/19 8:10 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: my router at 192.168.1.1 and the Viasat router uses 192.168.1.1 also. Hi Bob, Therein lies your problem.  You can continue to use your original setup if you configure your Viasat router correctly.  There is no re

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2019-04-21 Thread Mike Wright
On 4/21/19 8:10 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: my router at 192.168.1.1 and the Viasat router uses 192.168.1.1 also. Hi Bob, Therein lies your problem. You can continue to use your original setup if you configure your Viasat router correctly. There is no reason to keep beating your head against a

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2019-04-21 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2019-04-21 at 11:10 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > I have cameras and another ASUS router set up in the barn and all > that stuff will need to be reconfigured if I change the > address range. Third option, then: Put a switch after the ISP's modem/router, and plug everything that you trust n

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2019-04-21 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/20/19 22:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On this computer NM shows 192.168.122.1 initially, the other one I have been using ...124.1 If this is the address you are seeing on your computer, then you're probably looking at virbr0 which is the virtual bridge interface used by libvirtd for virtua

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2019-04-20 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> If you could put the ISP supplied thingummy into bridge mode, it >> would act simply as a modem, giving a bare ethernet output to your >> own router. See this diagram: https://pasteboard.co/Ib7teuG.png The upper three boxes show what we think your current situation is. Internal to the IS

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2019-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/20/19 4:38 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: . I would answer yes to all those questions ... On this computer NM shows 192.168.122.1 initially, the other one I have been using ...124.1 If this is the address you are seeing on your computer, then you're probably looking at virbr0 which is the virtua

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2019-04-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/20/19 15:54, Samuel Sieb wrote: Is this device you have shaped like a triangular prism? According to the little information I've been able to find, the viasat gateway should be at 192.168.100.1.  But it's not clear, so what IP address does your computer get when it's connected to the

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2019-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/20/19 8:34 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have found nothing in the settings indicating that option is available. NetworkManager shows two connection options, Ethernet (eno1) virbr0, I have it running at the eno1 and a fixed ipaddress on this computer, that works, the other never did where it wo

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2019-04-20 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/20/19 6:40 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/19/19 21:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: That's not what you want.  I don't know why you're trying to make a network bridge on your computer. . Ok, I can accept that based on you greater knowledge, but what's in a name? I want to connect a wide area networ

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2019-04-20 Thread Mike Wright
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2019-04-20 Thread Ben Mohilef
Is this of any help? http://wildbluetools.com/content/FS/110/111/I12000_EnableDisableBridgeModemSB2PlusModem.pdf ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of C

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2019-04-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
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2019-04-20 Thread Tim via users
-> the receiverhorrible preferred | rest modem & router router +> of doing NAT also doing NAT |your +--->LAN With the ISP-supplied modem rou

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2019-04-20 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/19/19 21:04, Samuel Sieb wrote: That's not what you want.  I don't know why you're trying to make a network bridge on your computer. . Ok, I can accept that based on you greater knowledge, but what's in a name? I want to connect a wide area network to a local area network but a network

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2019-04-19 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/19/19 11:42 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/16/19 16:01, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/16/19 12:59 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: According to everything I've found it should work with their modem feeding mine but I can't seem to get it working with the reworked modem I am using so I ordered a new one whi

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2019-04-19 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/16/19 16:01, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 4/16/19 12:59 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: According to everything I've found it should work with their modem feeding mine but I can't seem to get it working with the reworked modem I am using so I ordered a new one which should be here tomorrow and intend

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2019-04-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/16/19 16:01, Samuel Sieb wrote: Did you check the IP subnets? . Yes, and in desperation I just changed my router back to 192.168.1.1, same as isp router, I had it at 192.168.0.1 which seems like it should be to differentiate them? Also setting up the NAT is complicated, and taxiing m

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2019-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/16/19 12:59 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: According to everything I've found it should work with their modem feeding mine but I can't seem to get it working with the reworked modem I am using so I ordered a new one which should be here tomorrow and intend to try that. I hesitate to reset mine to

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2019-04-16 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/15/19 17:51, Mike Chambers wrote: Do you have to use their modems? I have been on ATT, charter, and now spectrum (all same thing just diff business bought them out), and I've been using my own model for years now, and I don't have to pay a monthly fee. I just called and gave them my in

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2019-04-15 Thread Mike Chambers
On Sun, 2019-04-14 at 17:12 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > . > I have a new problem with my internet connection which a few others > on > this list may have encountered. They [Viasat] replaced the modem and > antenna in upgrading the system. The new modem has an integral > router > having none of t

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2019-04-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/15/19 1:08 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Initially the ISP feed was into the WAN port on my dd-wrt router a [a system I have been using for 13 years] and nothing was reaching the LAN, wired or wifi. Normally the router feeds a 16 port switch that connects What IP range are you using on your rou

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2019-04-15 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 04:08 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Initially the ISP feed was into the WAN port on my dd-wrt router a > [a system I have been using for 13 years] and nothing was reaching > the LAN, wired or wifi. Normally the router feeds a 16 port switch > that connects the equipment on my wi

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2019-04-15 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/14/19 20:37, Samuel Sieb wrote: You could turn off dhcp on your router and then connect through the LAN ports, but that's not what your original email indicated that you wanted. Connect only the WAN port on your router to one of the ethernet ports on the modem.  Leave the rest of your n

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2019-04-14 Thread Tim via users
Samuel Sieb: >> If you can't disable the wifi on the modem, then you can just >> ignore it. Connect the WAN port on your router to the ethernet >> port on the modem. You end up with double NAT, but it should still >> work. Bob Goodwin: > Yeah, I think it's a poor design for the application, I

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2019-04-14 Thread fred roller
> > As mentioned, my solution has been to log into to their router, change to > bridged (usually had a simple pass through setting), then built my own > network. Should kill the WiFi at that point as well if memory serves me > right. ___ users mailing lis

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2019-04-14 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> If you did things like SSH in from the outside world, or accept >> other incoming connections, then you will strike problems. Their >> equipment would act as a firewall. That's why people say put it >> into bridge mode, then it's virtually transparent. Joe Zeff: > You should be able to t

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2019-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/19 3:41 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/14/19 17:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: If you can't disable the wifi on the modem, then you can just ignore it.  Connect the WAN port on your router to the ethernet port on the modem.  You end up with double NAT, but it should still work. . Yeah, I thin

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2019-04-14 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/14/2019 06:00 PM, Tim via users wrote: If you did things like SSH in from the outside world, or accept other incoming connections, then you will strike problems. Their equipment would act as a firewall. That's why people say put it into bridge mode, then it's virtually transparent. You

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2019-04-14 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2019-04-14 at 17:12 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > The problem is feeding their router data through my DD-WRT router. > An ethernet port is provided which they claim work but provide no > information for doing so. They sent a "technician" a few days ago and > he knew nothing more about it tha

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2019-04-14 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 14Apr2019 18:41, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 04/14/19 17:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: If you can't disable the wifi on the modem, then you can just ignore it.  Connect the WAN port on your router to the ethernet port on the modem.  You end up with double NAT, but it should still work. . Yeah, I think

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2019-04-14 Thread 3603060030
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2019-04-14 Thread 3603060030
ON @kingstontech -Original Message- From: Sent: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 19:04:47 -0400 To: 3603060...@txt.att.net Subject: Re: Modem/Router/Router - >On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 06:41:14PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: >> >> >> On 04/14/19 17:38, Samuel Sieb wrote:

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2019-04-14 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 06:41:14PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > > > On 04/14/19 17:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > >If you can't disable the wifi on the modem, then you can just > >ignore it.  Connect the WAN port on your router to the ethernet > >port on the modem.  You end up with double NAT, but i

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2019-04-14 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 04/14/19 17:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: If you can't disable the wifi on the modem, then you can just ignore it.  Connect the WAN port on your router to the ethernet port on the modem.  You end up with double NAT, but it should still work. . Yeah, I think it's a poor design for the applicati

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2019-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/19 2:12 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have a new problem with my internet connection which a few others on this list may have encountered. They [Viasat] replaced the modem and antenna in upgrading the system. The new modem has an integral router having none of the feature I need to manage da

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2019-04-14 Thread Bob Goodwin
. I have a new problem with my internet connection which a few others on this list may have encountered. They [Viasat] replaced the modem and antenna in upgrading the system. The new modem has an integral router having none of the feature I need to manage data usage, I've already used more tha