Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-20 Thread Saša Janiška
Chris Murphy writes: > Some of this is a repeat, as this comes up from time to time. […] Thank you for the input - I’m glad I did the right chocue with XFS for my Raid1 setup. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these kings; nor in the future

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-18 Thread Chris Murphy
Some of this is a repeat, as this comes up from time to time. Neither Red Hat nor Fedora currently have Btrfs developers to manage any Btrfs regressions that come up. And as the upstream development is still very busy, there are regressions, and there's every reason to believe Fedora users would g

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-10 Thread Saša Janiška
Matthew Miller writes: > Meanwhile RHEL (and Fedora Server) use XFS, which was *definitely* not > invented at Red Hat or by Fedora. I forgot to create bios_boot partition during my install and ended up with MBR instead of GPT…so, did re-install and switched (back) to XFS. Thank you, all, for yo

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 01:44:00PM -0500, Mark Haney wrote: > Did I say ANYTHING about it being bug-free? No. Maybe you should read the > bloody post before you go spewing that diarrhea out of your mouth. Hey, maybe time to step back from the email a little bit. This isn't an acceptable way to t

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread Mark Haney
Did I say ANYTHING about it being bug-free? No. Maybe you should read the bloody post before you go spewing that diarrhea out of your mouth. I said that BTRFS was NOT PRODUCTION READY. (Is that big enough text for you?) I swear, these mailing lists are degenerating to the point of being nearly

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread Andras Simon
2016-11-08 19:00 GMT+01:00, Fernando Cassia : > Name me one piece of software that is totally bug-free. H*ck, IBM's > JFS ate my data on OS/2 one day, on a "stable" piece of software. I know nothing about btrfs. But I do know that there's a difference between a piece of software "not being bug-fr

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On 11/8/16, Mark Haney wrote: > I've been told repeatedly that BTRFS isn't production ready. I've used it > here on a handful of servers and had nothing but trouble with it, > stability-wise. I sure as hell wouldn't use it on /boot if I can't trust > it for /home or /. Name me one piece of soft

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread Mark Haney
I've been told repeatedly that BTRFS isn't production ready. I've used it here on a handful of servers and had nothing but trouble with it, stability-wise. I sure as hell wouldn't use it on /boot if I can't trust it for /home or /. On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > That's absolutely not true. Fedora has wanted to use Btfs since... one > of the Boston FUDCons in 2008 or 2009 > Well, we disagree. FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de En

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread Saša Janiška
Matthew Miller writes: > That's absolutely not true. Fedora has wanted to use Btfs since... one > of the Boston FUDCons in 2008 or 2009. It's just never been ready, > which is something we know because we kept asking the upstream devs and > they kept saying "not yet, please", until they finally s

RE: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread J.Witvliet
-Original Message- From: Andre Robatino [mailto:robat...@fedoraproject.org] Sent: dinsdag 8 november 2016 9:54 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: /boot on btrfs > That's absolutely not true. Fedora has wanted to use Btfs since... one > of the Boston FUDCons in 2

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-08 Thread Andre Robatino
> That's absolutely not true. Fedora has wanted to use Btfs since... one > of the Boston FUDCons in 2008 or 2009. It's just never been ready, > which is something we know because we kept asking the upstream devs and > they kept saying "not yet, please", until they finally said "look, > please stop

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-07 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 07:30:54PM -0300, Fernando Cassia wrote: > Fedora/RedHat's stance on btfs is "passive agressive" (Not Invented Here > Syndrome). That's absolutely not true. Fedora has wanted to use Btfs since... one of the Boston FUDCons in 2008 or 2009. It's just never been ready, which i

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Fernando Cassia wrote: > since 2009. sorry, that should have read 2012. :) FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - Georg

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-07 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Saša Janiška wrote: > At the moment I do use xfs/raid1, but considering to switch (back) to > btrfs since simplifies setup having features of both lvm+raid. > Fedora/RedHat's stance on btfs is "passive agressive" (Not Invented Here Syndrome). I suggest you use S

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-07 Thread Saša Janiška
Rick Stevens writes: > They could probably help more over there. That being said, I don't > think btrfs on /boot is part of the plan for F25, although I could be > wrong on that. OK. I sill installed f25 with btrfs and separate /boot (raid1 setup). ;) Sincerely, Gour -- One must deliver hims

Re: /boot on btrfs

2016-11-04 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/04/2016 07:01 AM, Saša Janiška wrote: > Hello, > > I plan to put Fedora very soon on my desktop machine to replace Debian, > but noticed that /boot on btrfs is not supported although, iirc, I was > using the same setup under both openSUSE and Debian when using btrfs. > > At the moment I do