On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 14:36 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
In some cases - by code volume the FSF is not the biggest contributor,
even when you include (as they like to) all the third party code they
took and labelled GNU. In the case of the largest and most common
Linux
distribution today there is
I call it Linux/Gnu.
Without the kernel it wouldn't even boot.
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Why GNU/Linux? Why not GNU Linux // GNU Linux // GNU-Linux etc?
GNU/Linux implies either GNU or Linux, right?
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:13:59 +0100
Subject: Re: Linux or GNU/Linux
From: discordia...@gmail.com
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I call it Linux/Gnu.
Without the kernel
in my opinion Linux couldn't and still cannot exist without certain
parts of gnu project including software and licenses, especially gcc,
glibc, gpl and lgpl. and that's true for android too, unless it uses
kernel header's without gpl licensing instead of glibc.
At the time Linux was created
Why GNU/Linux? Why not GNU Linux // GNU Linux // GNU-Linux etc?
GNU/Linux implies either GNU or Linux, right?
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 13:13:59 +0100
Subject: Re: Linux or GNU/Linux
From: discordia...@gmail.com
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
I call it Linux/Gnu.
Without the kernel
Once upon a time, Shibi zzgr...@gmail.com said:
in my opinion Linux couldn't and still cannot exist without certain
parts of gnu project including software and licenses, especially gcc,
glibc
However, a significant portion of the development of gcc and glibc
(among many other GNU projects)
However, a significant portion of the development of gcc and glibc
(among many other GNU projects) over the last 20 years has come from the
Linux community. Without Linux, gcc and glibc would be very different
than they are today. Does that mean they should be renamed to Linux/GNU
CC and
Suggested naming convention was invented by pioneers of Free Software
to show the role of GNU and free software philosophy in creation of a
free community-based Operating System. they want to show OS (not
kernel) as a representer of Free Software.
Free software is a good thirty years older
I must confess that I really am much less informed than you about the
matter, I didn't know about Mere aggregation of another independent
work with the Program and I was just speaking about what I heard and
read about delisenced kernel headers in android.
Free software is a good thirty years
work with the Program and I was just speaking about what I heard and
read about delisenced kernel headers in android.
Which is rubbish - beware of junk spouted by PR people involved in
lawsuits. The are paid to dissemble, deceived and damage.
unfortunately I disagree with you, there might be
On 08/03/2012 06:09 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
While it's technically true to call such distros
GNU/Linux, such a label ignores a large portion of the origin and
richness of those distros.
I don't think that's true. Linux is the kernel. GNU/Linux is the
(POSIX) operating system. Fedora is the
On 08/03/2012 11:29 AM, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus wrote:
Well I think the doubt in fact is about the correct way for call this
Operating System (OS). I think the political correct way for it must
be gnu/linux because historically it was the way as this OS was
completed and worked. We are
Gordon Messmer wrote:
GNU the project provides a collection of Free
Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
Did you run this operating system?
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On 3 August 2012 12:29, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
Gordon Messmer wrote:
GNU the project provides a collection of Free
Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
Did you run this operating system?
Although I hate people calling Linux GNU/Linux... See the
Once, long ago--actually, on Thu, Aug 02, 2012 at 09:05:51PM -0700--Gordon
Messmer (yiny...@eburg.com) said:
That's a load of hooey. GNU the project provides a collection of
Free Software, but GNU the operating system existed before Linux.
The goal was an implementation of the POSIX operating
However, the kernel was far less successful. Despite the claims
of superior architecture, Hurd has never caught on; almost every
implementation you'll run into (I'd say 'every', but someone would come
up with John Drutin's Distro as a counter-example) uses the Linux kernel
and GNU libraries
This is all IMHO...
Linux is the kernel.
GNU is a project to create a Free operating system, which has created
such components as glibc, gcc, emacs, gdb, etc.
GNU/Linux is a combination of the two - any Linux-based operating system
that uses the GNU components.
There are other GNU-based
On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:39 AM, DJ Delorie d...@delorie.com wrote:
While it's technically true to call such distros
GNU/Linux, such a label ignores a large portion of the origin and
richness of those distros. It would be like calling the USA the
country that contains Boston.
Also, outside
On 07/29/2012 10:31 PM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
GNU is a software collection project founded by Richard Stallman that
provides open source versions of a who lot of programs that work with
the Linux (and other) kernel environment.
The GNU folks, not having a successfully popular kernel component,
Well I think the doubt in fact is about the correct way for call this
Operating System (OS). I think the political correct way for it must be
gnu/linux because historically it was the way as this OS was completed and
worked. We are talking about the firsts years of the 90's. Nowadays this OS
On 30.07.2012 07:09, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
Please, don't tell this to Richard Stallman.
Mateusz Marzantowicz
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On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello all,
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
issue).
I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
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On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello all,
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
issue).
I
2012-07-30 11:50 keltezéssel, Phil Dobbin írta:
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John Wendel wrote:
On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello all,
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community,
On Mon, 2012-07-30 at 10:50 +0100, Phil Dobbin wrote:
Interesting, I've never come across such a beast. Could you supply a URL
to one that you'd recommend as I'd be fascinated to check one out?
Embedded systems may use considerably less GNU bits than we're used to
in a general purpose
On 07/30/2012 06:09 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
issue).
I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
If you haven't done so already, I think
On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 23:53 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
On 07/29/2012 10:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello all,
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on
this issue).
I personally
On 30 July 2012 15:48, Chris Tyler ch...@tylers.info wrote:
On Sun, 2012-07-29 at 23:53 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
Linux is shorthand. GNU/Linux is still shorthand. I personally run
GNU/Linux/Xorg/Apache/BSD/LibreOffice/MySQL/Mozilla, but don't usually
refer to it that way, and that's still
On 07/30/2012 01:09 AM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Hello all,
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this
issue).
I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
It is a political/religious
On 07/30/2012 01:09 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf Nirjhor wrote:
Just thought about asking you guys what the actual name is, Linux or
GNU/Linux (In our Bangladeshi community, we're really divided on this issue).
I personally prefer Linux , what do you think?
By this question, I assume you are asking
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