On 1/2/2014 9:36 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 01/02/2014 05:32 PM, David wrote:
>> The emails marked as spam by Gmail are stored in the 'spam folder'
>> aces sable from your account
>
> Can you assume Google stores *all* the messages your are recipient in
> the SPAM folder? With 0 mess
On 01/02/2014 05:32 PM, David wrote:
The emails marked as spam by Gmail are stored in the 'spam folder'
aces sable from your account
Can you assume Google stores *all* the messages your are recipient in
the SPAM folder? With 0 messages discarded?
I wouldn't.
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On 1/2/2014 7:32 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 01/02/2014 12:12 AM, David wrote:
>> Good luck and have fun. Like I said *I* started with Gmail. That filters
>> the emails *before* they get downloaded to my email client.
>
> Yes but GMail *also* filters before your filters. So, you dont k
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 15:32:49 +0300
Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> On 01/02/2014 12:12 AM, David wrote:
> > Good luck and have fun. Like I said*I* started with Gmail. That
> > filters the emails*before* they get downloaded to my email client.
>
> Yes but GMail *also* filters before your filte
On 01/02/2014 12:12 AM, David wrote:
Good luck and have fun. Like I said*I* started with Gmail. That filters
the emails*before* they get downloaded to my email client.
Yes but GMail *also* filters before your filters. So, you dont know what
is filtered (as you dont receive it), wether it's f
On 28.12.2013 06:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
> all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
> using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or
> email address and prevent them
On 01/01/14 15:50, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Well thank you all for your input...I've gotten Spam Assassin
installedand now I'm going to play with it to see just how precise
I ca get itI'll start off with the obvious
stuff..(viagra.online pharmacy..erroneous dating sites, th
On 1/1/2014 3:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> On 01/01/2014 02:06 PM, David wrote:
>> On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
>>> I have it "on"...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
>>> that a LOT of spam is getting in...
On 1/1/2014 2:36 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 02:06:41PM -0500, David wrote:
>> Like all spam filters, that I know of, you have to train it. You have to
>> mark emails as spam that you consider spam.
>
> Yep.
>
>> Spam Assassin would be the same way I would think. I do not know
On 01/01/2014 02:06 PM, David wrote:
On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
I have it "on"...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
that a LOT of spam is getting inI dunno. I think I will be looking
into Spam Assassin for TB,..
On Wed, Jan 01, 2014 at 02:06:41PM -0500, David wrote:
> Like all spam filters, that I know of, you have to train it. You have to
> mark emails as spam that you consider spam.
Yep.
> Spam Assassin would be the same way I would think. I do not know of any
> spam filter program that already knows w
On 1/1/2014 1:31 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
> I have it "on"...and I would hope its working...but its just seems to me
> that a LOT of spam is getting inI dunno. I think I will be looking
> into Spam Assassin for TB,...and will be customizing my Mess
On 12/30/2013 04:07 PM, David wrote:
On 12/30/2013 4:00 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and the
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 05:16:58PM +1030, Tim wrote:
> Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent:
> > I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit
> > him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL!
>
> And we'll be cheering, too.
>
> On a whim, I once googled spa
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 04:00:02PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
>
> On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
> >Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
> >>SPAM is very subjective.
> >>I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
> >>and then i
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent:
> I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit
> him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL!
And we'll be cheering, too.
On a whim, I once googled spammer beaten up, and read an amusing story
about a ten minute fist f
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor sent:
> Every mailing list I've joined I have a genuine interest in, or it's a
> hobby of mine..(PremierGuitar.com.GuitarFetish.com...etc) I see no
> real way that my email address got out TO the people who are using it
> as a spam rece
On 12/30/2013 4:00 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
>
> On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
>> Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
>>> SPAM is very subjective.
>>> I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
>>> and then in February they're
On 12/30/2013 08:48 AM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
SPAM is very subjective.
I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
and then in February they're too lazy to cleanly unsubscribe: they
just tag the message as SP
On Mon, 2013-12-30 at 13:30 -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor wrote:
> I swear if EVER I find the person who invented spam?...I'm gonna hit
> him with a whiffle-ball bat! LOL!
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Canter_and_Martha_Siegel
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On 12/30/2013 12:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
On 12/28/2013 08:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email
addresses to the "Block" list...
Do you know that a big ratio of SPAM are with forged sender address?
Just try it in Thun
Allegedly, on or about 30 December 2013, Mihamina Rakotomandimby sent:
> SPAM is very subjective.
> I saw users subscribing to several newsletters for an event (say XMas)
> and then in February they're too lazy to cleanly unsubscribe: they
> just tag the message as SPAM, and they argue it's SPAM be
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. sent:
> this is all fascinating to me. I'm not using a mail server, just
> trying to keep the size of my Inbox down, since the more spam it gets
> the fatter it gets as wellI will be looking into all possibilities
> regarding this
Allegedly, on or about 29 December 2013, Dave Ihnat sent:
> It sounds to me like you don't care for anti-spam solutions, and as
> such have never really investigated the viable options. I can
> understand your sentiments, but don't agree with your conclusions.
> It's your choice, and I respect tha
On 12/28/2013 08:32 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
That's strange, all my mail comes through gmail and I rarely see any
spam unless I go in and look at what they've filtered out. I only use
Thunderbird filters to sort messages into categories/directories.
SPAM is very subjective
On 12/28/2013 08:13 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email
addresses to the "Block" list...
Do you know that a big ratio of SPAM are with forged sender address?
Just try it in Thunderbird: manage identities, add, and setup a fake sender.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 03:59:47PM +1100, Roger wrote:
> I don't know if this may help but there is another possibility.
> Much of my Inbox spam/annoying garbage emails used similar words
> such as ...
True. But...
> I set up 3 filters, ...
You're reinventing. Spamassassin has provision for al
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 07:53:53PM -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
> I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email.
> Why? Because I own my own domain, I use my hosting company's email
> servers instead of my ISP's and a small number of their customers
> are spammers. Whenever their sp
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:57:52PM +1030, Tim wrote:
> If I have to double-check, what's the point of it? Seriously! How
> different is that than just hitting delete on the way through reading
> your mail?
Nothing--if you've only, say, 10 messages. If you're talking about dozens
or hundreds, it
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 02:25:41PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> Doesn't your ISP have spam filters or are you the ISP?
Effectively, I am. I run my own mail server, and just use my ISP as a
pipe.
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On 12/29/2013 10:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, Tim wrote:
In the past, I've emailed friends, and my first or second posting has
gone into their spam bucket, without them doing anything about it.
I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email.
Why? Because
On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, Tim wrote:
In the past, I've emailed friends, and my first or second posting has
gone into their spam bucket, without them doing anything about it.
I have a friend who's email service sporadically bounces my email. Why?
Because I own my own domain, I use my hosting co
Tim:
>> If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy.
Robert Holtzman:
> You don't entertain the possibility that not all spam filters are 100%
> correct or that no software is 100% reliable, given the fact that it's
> all developed by humans, none of whom are 100% infallible?
I do
Tim:
>> If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy.
Dave Ihnat:
> Again I'll say--no matter how good any anti-spam software is, there
> will ALWAYS be false positives. So on that basis, you don't like any
> of it?
If I have to double-check, what's the point of it? Seriously!
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:16:19AM -0600, Dave Ihnat wrote:
snip...
>
> It's not uncommon for SpamAssassin to catch 400-700 a *day*. When really
> bad new campaigns start up, sometimes it can go over a thousand. Usually,
> only 5-10 get through, whereupon I feed 'em to sa-
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:41:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> Tim:
> >> I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
> >> make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
>
> Heinz Diehl:
> > It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on
> > average. A quick lo
On 12/28/2013 01:12 PM, Richard Vickery wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Steven Stern
> mailto:subscribed-li...@sterndata.com>>
> wrote:
>
> On 12/28/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> >
> > On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
>
On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 08:49 +1030, Tim wrote:
> I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
> make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
I don't think so. The spam filtering system we use at work (based on
SpamAssassin with a web interface to view suspected spam)
On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote:
[CRM-114..]
> But you don't trust it enough, not to check...
No. Because email loss is strictly not acceptable. I always check back
manually. CRM-114, once trained, is pretty good, and it takes no more
than 10-15 secs to see if there's "real" email amongst all the spam.
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 01:41:40AM +1030, Tim wrote:
> But you don't trust it enough, not to check...
Even as good as my SA rules are, I check on a spot basis.
> If I had to check up on it, I don't consider it trustworthy.
Again I'll say--no matter how good any anti-spam software is, there
will
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 03:58:12AM -0500, David wrote:
> Wow! 30 per day? Just wow! You must have a spam magnet or something. :-)
>
> I use seven different accounts regularly and I don't get 20 in a month.
Heh. Some people change accounts to get away from spam. I've used
the same couple of add
On 12/29/2013 3:29 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote:
>
>> I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
>> make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
>
> It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on
> average. A quick look into m
Tim:
>> I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
>> make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
Heinz Diehl:
> It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on
> average. A quick look into my spam-folder is enough to check if any
> serious email ac
On 29.12.2013, Tim wrote:
> I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
> make having anti-spam filtering a waste of time.
It depends. I've been receiving about 30 spam emails daily, on
average. A quick look into my spam-folder is enough to check if any
serious email
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 03:56:16PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> Hmmm...maybe I can do with a bit of reading up on Spam
> Assassinwonder if there's an Open Source version of it?...
It is already FOSS.
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Steven Stern:
>> I check my Gmail spam folder about once a week to see if it had any
>> false positives. I gave up running my own mail server as Google does
>> a much better job.
I've always considered having to check your spam for false positives to
make having anti-spam filtering a waste of tim
On 12/28/2013 02:35 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:12:24AM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
I wonder what Google's secret is?
Most likely, a heavily customized version of SpamAssassin. Or if not
specifically SA, some other Baysean filter.
Which, incidentally, wouldn't be amiss
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:12:24AM -0800, Richard Vickery wrote:
> I wonder what Google's secret is?
Most likely, a heavily customized version of SpamAssassin. Or if not
specifically SA, some other Baysean filter.
Which, incidentally, wouldn't be amiss in your own server.
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Steven Stern <
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com> wrote:
> On 12/28/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
> >
> > On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> >>>
> >> Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so
> >> much!
On 12/28/2013 11:32 AM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>
> On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
>>>
>> Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so
>> much! My Inbox seems to be growing every day with more and more spam.
>> I literally spent a whole hour a
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 12:13:24PM -0500, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
...snip..
> >
> Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so
> much! My Inbox seems to be growing every day with more and more
> spam. I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST add
On 28/12/13 12:13, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Yes Joachim this is EXACTLY what I was looking for!..Thank you so
much! My Inbox seems to be growing every day with more and more spam.
I literally spent a whole hour and a half ...JUST adding email
addresses to the "Block" list...and now that
On 12/28/2013 04:29 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
On 12/28/2013 06:06 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain
On 12/28/2013 06:06 AM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
> Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
> all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
> using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or
> email address and prevent th
Hello you Ferdorans! (FedorIANS?...) I have a question,.nowwe
all know that there's ways to block unwanted email from your system
using Message Filters, and they work by blocking a certain domain or
email address and prevent them from hitting your Inbox, I would like to
know if anyone k
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