Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-16 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:45:09 +0100 Barry wrote: > Its not a check as such. > Masking means the service is defined as /dev/null, hard to start when > there is nothing defined. True that. :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-16 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 07:38:56 -0700 stan wrote: > On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 04:59:48 - > "Andre Robatino" wrote: > > > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:59:59 -0700 > > > Jonathan Ryshpan > > > > > > > > I masked systemd-oomd.service because I have real swap, > > > > Masking it is unreliable

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-16 Thread Barry
> On 16 Apr 2023, at 15:39, stan via users > wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 04:59:48 - > "Andre Robatino" wrote: > >>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:59:59 -0700 >>> Jonathan Ryshpan >> >>> >>> I masked systemd-oomd.service because I have real swap, >> >> Masking it is unreliable because

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-16 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 15 Apr 2023 04:59:48 - "Andre Robatino" wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:59:59 -0700 > > Jonathan Ryshpan > > > > > I masked systemd-oomd.service because I have real swap, > > Masking it is unreliable because it might start running again if > system-oomd-defaults is updated or

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 3:48 PM Andre Robatino wrote: > > I don't know enough about systemd to think that's even a bug - I had assumed > it was normal behavior. In any case the bug that was forcing me to disable > the OOM killer ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177722 ) has >

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-15 Thread Andre Robatino
I don't know enough about systemd to think that's even a bug - I had assumed it was normal behavior. In any case the bug that was forcing me to disable the OOM killer ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177722 ) has been fixed so I'm not disabling it anymore.

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-15 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 1:05 PM Andre Robatino wrote: > > On F37, masking was the first thing I tried. Then after a systemd update, I > noticed it was running again, even though it was still masked (verified by > "systemctl status systemd-oomd" which showed it both running and masked at > the

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-15 Thread Andre Robatino
On F37, masking was the first thing I tried. Then after a systemd update, I noticed it was running again, even though it was still masked (verified by "systemctl status systemd-oomd" which showed it both running and masked at the same time). ___ users

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/23 22:06, Andre Robatino wrote: I just tried masking/reinstalling just now and it didn't restart. I experienced it before with a systemd update so it might require that. But masking is definitely not 100% effective. Masking should be 100% effective. It changes files in /etc which

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-14 Thread Andre Robatino
I just tried masking/reinstalling just now and it didn't restart. I experienced it before with a systemd update so it might require that. But masking is definitely not 100% effective. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-14 Thread Andre Robatino
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:59:59 -0700 > Jonathan Ryshpan > > I masked systemd-oomd.service because I have real swap, Masking it is unreliable because it might start running again if system-oomd-defaults is updated or reinstalled. (To check this, try reinstalling it.) It's better to just

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 09:49 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 08:30 -0700, stan via users wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:59:59 -0700 > > Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:21 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:53 PM Jonathan

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread Doug Herr
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023, at 5:52 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Starting Oracle's VirtualBox has started to crash other apps, in > particular Thunderbird, Firefox, and Libreoffice; [snip] I assume it is not just starting the VirtualBox Manager that is doing this. It might help to know how much

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 08:30 -0700, stan via users wrote: > On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:59:59 -0700 > Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:21 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:53 PM Jonathan Ryshpan > > > wrote:  > > > > Starting Oracle's VirtualBox has started to

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread Tom Horsley
This is unlikely to be the problem, but it is a fun story: Many years ago there was a bug in the KVM kernel code that failed to correctly context switch all the registers in virtual machines. In this case, the somewhat obscure debug registers. So if I was running debugger tests inside a virtual

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 11 Apr 2023 00:59:59 -0700 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:21 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:53 PM Jonathan Ryshpan > > wrote: > > > Starting Oracle's VirtualBox has started to crash other apps, in > > > particular Thunderbird, Firefox, and

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 15:46 +0930, Tim via users wrote: > On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 17:52 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Libreoffice attempts to restore files being worked on (but it failed > > to restore about 2 hours' worth of work). > > Some thirty-plus years ago I learnt to regularly press

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 22:21 -0400, Go Canes wrote: > On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:53 PM Jonathan Ryshpan > wrote: > > Starting Oracle's VirtualBox has started to crash other apps, in > > particular Thunderbird, Firefox, and Libreoffice; but not the > > console. Firefox and Thunderbird just stop;

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Tue, 2023-04-11 at 01:15 +, C. Linus Hicks wrote: > Starting Oracle's VirtualBox has started to crash other apps, in > particular Thunderbird, Firefox, and Libreoffice; but not the console. > Firefox and Thunderbird just stop; Libreoffice attempts to restore > files being worked on (but it

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-11 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 17:52 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Libreoffice attempts to restore files being worked on (but it failed > to restore about 2 hours' worth of work). Some thirty-plus years ago I learnt to regularly press "CTRL S" to save the current status of whatever I was working on,

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-10 Thread Go Canes
On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 8:53 PM Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > Starting Oracle's VirtualBox has started to crash other apps, in particular > Thunderbird, Firefox, and Libreoffice; but not the console. Firefox and > Thunderbird just stop; Libreoffice attempts to restore files being worked on > (but

Re: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-10 Thread C. Linus Hicks
Subject: Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps Starting Oracle's VirtualBox has started to crash other apps, in particular Thunderbird, Firefox, and Libreoffice; but not the console. Firefox and Thunderbird just stop; Libreoffice attempts to restore files being worked on (but it failed

Running VirtualBox Crashes Other Apps

2023-04-10 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
Starting Oracle's VirtualBox has started to crash other apps, in particular Thunderbird, Firefox, and Libreoffice; but not the console. Firefox and Thunderbird just stop; Libreoffice attempts to restore files being worked on (but it failed to restore about 2 hours' worth of work). Has anyone seen