Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-11-18 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 06:12:36PM -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Bill Davidsen wrote: > >David A. De Graaf wrote: > >>On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 02:19:55PM -0400, David A. De Graaf wrote: > >>>On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 04:01:30AM +0930, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murp

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-11-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bill Davidsen wrote: David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 02:19:55PM -0400, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 04:01:30AM +0930, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murphy sent: Cables are often the source of weird problems. Specifically it's the

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-11-13 Thread Bill Davidsen
David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 02:19:55PM -0400, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 04:01:30AM +0930, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murphy sent: Cables are often the source of weird problems. Specifically it's the connectors that are f

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-11-11 Thread Gary Artim
I had a similar situation of freezing system but I had errors on cpu stalls. the drives were 2/20T raids using adaptec 5805 cards. Did similarly - swapping mb, cpu, mem, psu - nothing worked. Switched from btrfs to xfs. Stayed up but stalled. Then I found a post about not using cfq on 5805 drive. S

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-10-19 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 02:19:55PM -0400, David A. De Graaf wrote: > On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 04:01:30AM +0930, Tim wrote: > > Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murphy sent: > > > Cables are often the source of weird problems. Specifically it's the > > > connectors that are flakey, not t

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-10-03 Thread jd1008
On 10/03/2014 12:19 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 04:01:30AM +0930, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murphy sent: Cables are often the source of weird problems. Specifically it's the connectors that are flakey, not the cable portion itself. Thoug

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-10-03 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 04:01:30AM +0930, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murphy sent: > > Cables are often the source of weird problems. Specifically it's the > > connectors that are flakey, not the cable portion itself. > > Though, if you savagely bend SATA leads, the

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-10-02 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 02 October 2014, Chris Murphy sent: > Cables are often the source of weird problems. Specifically it's the > connectors that are flakey, not the cable portion itself. Though, if you savagely bend SATA leads, the way some of them are supplied in a flattened up zig-zag style,

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-10-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:33 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > Now Louis Lagendijk suggests changing the SATA cable. That's just weird! Cables are often the source of weird problems. Specifically it's the connectors that are flakey, not the cable portion itself. Chris Murphy -- users mailing

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-24 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 08:10:51PM +0200, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 08:43 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > > On 22 September 2014 03:37, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > > On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:08 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > > > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Chr

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-22 Thread Louis Lagendijk
On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 08:43 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: > On 22 September 2014 03:37, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:08 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > > >>> > >>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Chris Murphy > >>> wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:18 AM, David A. D

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-22 Thread Ian Malone
On 22 September 2014 03:37, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:08 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Chris Murphy >>> wrote: On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:18 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > When the system freezes, if X is lit (not s

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:08 PM, David A. De Graaf wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Chris Murphy >> wrote: >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:18 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: When the system freezes, if X is lit (not screen-saved) the LCD monitor looks as if it had been

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:19 AM, Roger Heflin wrote: > Power supply would be my only guess to cause system wide failures with > 2 separate motherboards, Bad logic board batch is more likely than a power supply frying only the SATA 2 ports. Power supplies do weird things, so I'd say if the proble

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-19 Thread David A. De Graaf
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 12:19:18PM -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > Power supply would be my only guess to cause system wide failures with > 2 separate motherboards, both of which would be unlikely to be bad in > the same way. I have used a number of the AMD build sata2/sata3 MB > controllers and nev

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-19 Thread Roger Heflin
Power supply would be my only guess to cause system wide failures with 2 separate motherboards, both of which would be unlikely to be bad in the same way. I have used a number of the AMD build sata2/sata3 MB controllers and never had them act up even when using all of the build-ins at the same ti

Re: SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:18 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > > When the system freezes, if X is lit (not screen-saved) the LCD > monitor looks as if it had been hit a sharp blow on the right edge so > that all the pixels have been shaken loose. Sounds like a bad motherboard. It's managing to corrup

SATA II causes system freeze

2014-09-19 Thread David A. De Graaf
For several months I've been trying to track down the cause of frequent system freezes on a machine I built in Dec. '13. The frequency of freezes has gradually increased from never to several times a day. The solution is so improbable that I wonder if I am hallucinating. I simply moved the SATA ca