Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-19 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/18/2014 09:51 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 12/18/2014 06:12 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have used k3b on gnome desktop for a looong time. It is the CD/DVD burner tool of choice. Now that I am switching to Xfce, after being introduced to it on the Fedora 19 & 20 armv7 remixes, I still

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-18 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/18/2014 06:12 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I have used k3b on gnome desktop for a looong time. It is the CD/DVD > burner tool of choice. Now that I am switching to Xfce, after being > introduced to it on the Fedora 19 & 20 armv7 remixes, I still use it > for my CD/DVD burning. I also use

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/17/2014 10:55 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/17/2014 11:08 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/16/2014 01:49 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 07:30 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I us

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-17 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/17/2014 11:08 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/16/2014 01:49 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 07:30 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-17 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/16/2014 01:49 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 07:30 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document formats like dvi, djvu, ps, epub,

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Roger Wells wrote: > On 12/17/2014 08:47 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: > > MasterPdfEditor is horribly slow to display my pdfs, which contain > matplotlib > pdfs with thousands of data points. evince is very fast at this. > > > > evince chokes on PDF files w

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Chris Murphy sent: >> Android 7.61MB. This just displays them, there's no creation or >> modification as far as I'm aware. So it's possible most of the code >> complexity is in the creation and modification. >>

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-17 Thread Andras Simon
2014-12-17 0:45 GMT+01:00, Tim : > Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Chris Murphy sent: >> Android 7.61MB. This just displays them, there's no creation or >> modification as far as I'm aware. So it's possible most of the code >> complexity is in the creation and modification. >> >> The point

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-17 Thread Roger Wells
On 12/17/2014 08:47 AM, Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak wrote: MasterPdfEditor is horribly slow to display my pdfs, which contain matplotlib pdfs with thousands of data points. evince is very fast at this. evince chokes on PDF files with heavy bitmap-image content, like dense city GIS maps. (Proba

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-17 Thread Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak
MasterPdfEditor is horribly slow to display my pdfs, which contain matplotlib pdfs with thousands of data points. evince is very fast at this. evince chokes on PDF files with heavy bitmap-image content, like dense city GIS maps. (Probably due to poorly-implemented scaling internally; gtk rou

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-12-16 05:14, Neal Becker wrote: Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for p

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Robin Laing
On 2014-12-16 16:45, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Chris Murphy sent: Android 7.61MB. This just displays them, there's no creation or modification as far as I'm aware. So it's possible most of the code complexity is in the creation and modification. The point is that as an

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Paul Cartwright sent: > when I click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a > window, then crashes. once I save the attachment to my HD, > double-click opens it.. Fedora21.. As a test, you could try changing the default application to somethi

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 16 December 2014, Chris Murphy sent: > Android 7.61MB. This just displays them, there's no creation or > modification as far as I'm aware. So it's possible most of the code > complexity is in the creation and modification. > > The point is that as any software becomes more c

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> Master PDF editor is quite nice but, strangely, when it comes to filling in > PDF forms evince works better I've found. However if you need to actually > fill in a PDF that doesn't have form fields master PDF editor is the way to > go Thanks a lot for the hint, the screenshots look definitivly

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Kevin Martin
skowitz >> To: Community support for Fedora users >> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 9:15 PM >> Subject: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince? >> >> So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing >> is a must, and on F20,

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/16/2014 12:33 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 12/16/2014 12:44 AM, Doug wrote: Have you looked at Master PDF Editor, as I mentioned in a previous post to this list? --doug running fedora21.. tried to install Master-pdf-editor: # rpm -i master*.rpm file / from install of master-pdf-e

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/16/2014 08:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 08:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: # dnf install libreoffice Install 85 Packages Total download size: 126 M Installed size: 393 M Yes, ... this is an issue, as well. Well that's

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Neal Becker
; Regards, > > Kevin Martin > > Sent from my Tab Pro running Kitkat! > > -Original Message- > From: Doug > To: Community support for Fedora users > Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 8:58 PM > Subject: Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince? > > On 12/15

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/16/2014 06:52 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: > On 16.12.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: > >> I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but when I >> click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a window, then > Just tried it out of curiosity on a Lenovo laptop with bog sta

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Neal Becker
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 > Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> >> What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than >> evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? > > Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. > > And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortme

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Neal Becker
Monday, December 15, 2014 9:15 PM > Subject: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince? > > So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing > is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. So I went to get > acrobat, and it seems to be truly g

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2014-12-16 at 10:11 +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > On 12/16/2014 10:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> This probably doesn't matter much to kde users, but pulling in 50 > >> additional > >> >packages and 176 M to me is a serious issue. > > Just as point of comparison, ... LibreOffice

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 16.12.2014, Paul Cartwright wrote: > I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but when I > click on a PDF in a thunderbird email, it starts to open a window, then Just tried it out of curiosity on a Lenovo laptop with bog standard F21 and thunderbird. No problems here. --

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/16/2014 12:44 AM, Doug wrote: > > Have you looked at Master PDF Editor, as I mentioned in a previous > post to this list? > > --doug running fedora21.. tried to install Master-pdf-editor: # rpm -i master*.rpm file / from install of master-pdf-editor-2.1.90-2.x86_64 conflicts with file f

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/15/2014 11:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/16/2014 03:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing >> is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. > I have an annoying issue with PDF. I have evince installed, but w

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-16 Thread Butrus Damaskus
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:47 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 > Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > > What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than > > evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? > > Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. > > And I use it not

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/16/2014 08:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Ralf Corsepius >> wrote: >>> >>> On 12/16/2014 07:30 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:11 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > On 12/16/2014 10:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> >>> This probably doesn't matter much to kde users, but pulling in 50 >>> additional >>> >packages and 176 M to me is a serious issue. >> >> Just as point of comparison, ... LibreOffi

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/16/2014 08:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 07:30 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assor

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 12/16/2014 10:03 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: This probably doesn't matter much to kde users, but pulling in 50 additional >packages and 176 M to me is a serious issue. Just as point of comparison, ... LibreOffice on Linux is not some Tonka Toy app (although Tonka Toys are badass, they're obviousl

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 12/16/2014 07:30 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic >> wrote: >>> >>> Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. >>> >>> And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document >

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/16/2014 07:30 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document formats like dvi, djvu, ps, epub, and so on. Okular is indeed the best pdf read

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 12/15/2014 10:30 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document formats like dvi, djvu, ps, epub, and so on. Okular is indeed the best pdf read

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. > > And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document > formats like dvi, djvu, ps, epub, and so on. Okular is indeed the best pdf reader irrespective of what desktop environment

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:48:57 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > On 12/16/2014 12:44 AM, Doug wrote: > > On 12/16/2014 12:13 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> > >> On 12/15/2014 11:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >>> On 12/16/2014 03:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > So here I am setting up my

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 16.12.2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince I've been using evince a lot during my mastergrade studies, and it worked for me. For "special cases" as e.g. pdf annotation I've been using Xournal. I agree that okular is somewhat

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/16/2014 12:44 AM, Doug wrote: On 12/16/2014 12:13 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/15/2014 11:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 03:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Doug
On 12/16/2014 12:13 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 12/15/2014 11:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 03:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. So had I. Besides evin

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 12/15/2014 11:12 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/16/2014 03:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. So had I. Besides evince's various UI-usability issues (Admitted, these

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ralf Corsepius said: > For now, I am using evince, firefox's built-in pdf reader and the > old acroread. However, actually, I am disatified with all three of > them, but haven't found a convincing alternative, yet. Are there any alternatives to Adobe's version that implement the

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/16/2014 03:15 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. So had I. Besides evince's various UI-usability issues (Admitted, these are mostly a matter of taste), https://bugzil

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Kevin Martin
ing Kitkat! -Original Message- From: Doug To: Community support for Fedora users Sent: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 8:58 PM Subject: Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince? On 12/15/2014 09:47 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 > Robert Moskowitz wrote

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Doug
On 12/15/2014 09:47 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole as

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Joe Wulf
acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince? So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. So I went to get acrobat, and it seems to be truly gone. I see a thread of people running it in Wine.  I shutter at the t

Re: So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:15:50 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > What are people doing for pdf reading native on Fedora other than > evince (F20 is 3.10, F21 is 3.14)? Being a happy KDE user, I like okular. And I use it not just for pdf, but a whole assortment of other document formats like dvi,

So acrobat is dead for linux - long live evince?

2014-12-15 Thread Robert Moskowitz
So here I am setting up my new F21 system and of course pdf processing is a must, and on F20, I had many problems with evince. So I went to get acrobat, and it seems to be truly gone. I see a thread of people running it in Wine. I shutter at the thought, though I suppose if ya got to. I hav