Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-14 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/14/2011 06:53 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Ok , I accept your point. Then why is gnome-tweak-tool not included by > default? One needs this program too configure Gnome 3 It is not part of default GNOME. It is a extra (essentially, third party) utility for tweaking things which are not regula

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 03:29 -0400, Mike Williams wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:23:01 +0530, RS wrote: > > > >> On 06/14/2011 01:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:FC15 today. > >> > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less > >> >

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-14 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 08:23 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/14/2011 01:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:FC15 today. > > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less > > does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make > > changes. Well maybe sometime. > > Please be more s

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-14 Thread Ed Greshko
On 06/14/2011 06:05 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Mike Williams wrote: > >> I don't have f15, yet... does chkconfig --list still output the SysV >> services? > It seems to, as far as I can see. > > Conversely, does "systemctl -t service" list all SysV services? > And is this the recommended command

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-14 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mike Williams wrote: > I don't have f15, yet... does chkconfig --list still output the SysV > services? It seems to, as far as I can see. Conversely, does "systemctl -t service" list all SysV services? And is this the recommended command to list services now? The output seems to me fuller but

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-14 Thread Mike Williams
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:23:01 +0530, RS wrote: > >> On 06/14/2011 01:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:FC15 today. >> > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less >> > does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make >

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:23:01 +0530, RS wrote: > On 06/14/2011 01:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:FC15 today. > > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less > > does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make > > changes. Well maybe sometime. > > Please be more specific.

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/14/2011 01:52 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote:FC15 today. > 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less > does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make > changes. Well maybe sometime. Please be more specific. > 4. Why are things like gnotes not installed by default?

Re: Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-13 Thread Antonio Olivares
Aaron, --- On Mon, 6/13/11, Aaron Konstam wrote: > From: Aaron Konstam > Subject: Still some mysteries about FC15 > To: "users" > Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 1:22 PM > > TO FIX A MANGLED SUBJECT LINE > 3. Someone needs to give the  Gnome3 people a lesson &g

Still some mysteries about FC15

2011-06-13 Thread Aaron Konstam
TO FIX A MANGLED SUBJECT LINE Well I was on vacation so I only installed FC15 today. And some strange tings occurred. 1, The wiki pages on systemd say that chkconfig --less does not work. That is not true. I know its a wiki and I can make changes. Well maybe sometime. 2. The method for making the