t; On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:22:12 -0400
>>>> Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo -s
>>>>> sudo su
>>>>> sudo su -l
>>>>> sudo sh
>>>>> sudo sh -l
>>>>> sudo bash
> Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> sudo -s
>>>>> sudo su
>>>>> sudo su -l
>>>>> sudo sh
>>>>> sudo sh -l
>>>>> sudo bash -l
>>>>> ...
>>>>
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 06:15:08 -0400
Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote:
> > On 04/27/2018 07:26 AM, D wrote:
> >> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:22:12 -0400
> >> Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com&g
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 5:41 PM, Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote:
> On 04/27/2018 07:26 AM, D wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:22:12 -0400
>> Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> sudo -s
>>> sudo su
>>> sudo su -l
>>>
On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 04/27/2018 05:13 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>>
>>> I suppose that's true, but in that case, there's probably a larger issue
>>> involved and you'll likely need
On 04/27/2018 07:26 AM, D wrote:
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 08:22:12 -0400
Tom H <tomh0...@gmail.com> wrote:
sudo -s
sudo su
sudo su -l
sudo sh
sudo sh -l
sudo bash -l
...
None of the sudo commands listed allow you to run a graphical program ie.
meld. Is there some way to do that?
Waylan
On 04/27/2018 05:13 AM, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I suppose that's true, but in that case, there's probably a larger issue
involved and you'll likely need a live boot of some sort anyway. There is
one case where this does become a
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:24:36 -0700
Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 04/26/2018 07:50 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:56:22 -0700
> > Rick Stevens wrote:
> >
> >> and utterly awesome and loveable) self.
> >
> > what?? what???
>
>
>>>> If I need to do more than one or two things as root, it's easier to
>>>>> become root rather than type sudo over and over.
>>>>
>>>> That's what "sudo -i" is for.
>>>
>>> Or "sudo bash"
>>
>> Sure
o do more than one or two things as root, it's easier to
>>>>> become root rather than type sudo over and over.
>>>>
>>>> That's what "sudo -i" is for.
>>>
>>> Or "sudo bash"
>>
>> Sure, or
>>
&g
On 04/26/2018 07:50 PM, Dave Stevens wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:56:22 -0700
> Rick Stevens wrote:
>
>> and utterly awesome and loveable) self.
>
> what?? what???
Are you saying I'm not awesome and lovable (despite my misspelling)?
That kind of hurts (insert pouty
become root rather than type sudo over and over.
> >>
> >> That's what "sudo -i" is for.
> >
> > Or "sudo bash"
>
> Sure, or
>
> sudo -s
> sudo su
> sudo su -l
> sudo sh
> sudo sh -l
> sudo bash -l
> ...
No
;> I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for.
>>>
>>> If I need to do more than one or two things as root, it's easier to
>>> become root rather than type sudo over and over.
>>
>> That's what "sudo -i
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote:
> On 04/26/2018 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
>>>
>>> Good to know that it will always be there. Habit for me is to use root
>>> and su instead of sudo
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Joe Zeff <j...@zeff.us> wrote:
> On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
>>
>> Good to know that it will always be there. Habit for me is to use
>> root and su instead of sudo. old dog - new tricks :-)
>
> Same here. If I ever had to w
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 1:25 PM, stan wrote:
> I think I remember reading that there will be no default root account
> after install of F28 or later.
For Fedora 28 Workstation.
> Again, I think I remember the workaround was to use sudo, and then
> create a root
On Thu, 2018-04-26 at 14:25 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 01:03:58PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> > I installed Virtual Manager in this Fedora 27 workstation system
> > and
> > created afedora 28 beta installation and was surprised to find I
> > haveonly user bobg, no root
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:09:43 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 04/26/2018 01:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 04/26/2018 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >> I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for.
> > > If I need to do more than one or two things as root, it's
For what it's worth, systemd emergency/rescue target only accept a root
login. Apparently it's complicated getting it to use a user in wheel.
Anyway I add two boot parameters as a workaround rather than permanently
enabling root.
1 systemd.debug-shell=1
tty9 will have a root shell, no password.
that does. It asks for your user password
> and
> gives you a full root shell. You don't need to type "sudo" for every command
> and
> no need for a root password. "su -" and "sudo -i" have the same result, but
> the
> first one asks for the
;sudo"
for every command and no need for a root password. "su -" and "sudo -i"
have the same result, but the first one asks for the root password and
the second one asks for your user password.
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On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 18:56:22 -0700
Rick Stevens wrote:
> and utterly awesome and loveable) self.
what?? what???
--
In modern fantasy (literary or governmental), killing people is the
usual solution to the so-called war between good and evil. My books are
not conceived in
On 04/26/2018 05:44 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 04/27/18 08:29, Rick Stevens wrote:
>> On 04/26/2018 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:05:28 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:
> I think the majority opinion now is that
On 04/27/18 08:29, Rick Stevens wrote:
> On 04/26/2018 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>> On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
>>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:05:28 -0700
>>> Samuel Sieb wrote:
I think the majority opinion now is that logging in as the root user
is discouraged.
On 04/26/2018 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:05:28 -0700
>> Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> I think the majority opinion now is that logging in as the root user
>>> is discouraged. In almost all cases sudo is sufficient and if
On 04/26/2018 01:36 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for.
The growisofs man page states "If executed under sudo(8) growisofs refuses to
start." (and explains why). I don't know if there are other commands
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:54:08 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:
> I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for. I used
> to use that all the time, but gradually I switched over and on my
> desktop system, it is extremely rare that I use it. (I think only
> when the
> On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
>
> I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for.
The growisofs man page states "If executed under sudo(8) growisofs refuses to
start." (and explains why). I don't know if there are other commands with the
same issue.
On 04/26/2018 01:14 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I suppose that's true, but in that case, there's probably a larger issue
involved and you'll likely need a live boot of some sort anyway.
I'd find it both faster and easier to switch to a text console, log in
as root and do what's needed. Of course,
On 04/26/2018 01:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
Good to know that it will always be there. Habit for me is to use root
and su instead of sudo. old dog - new tricks :-)
Same here. If I ever had to work with Ubuntu, one of the first things
I'd do is set the root
On 04/26/2018 01:03 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 04/26/2018 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for.
If I need to do more than one or two things as root, it's easier to
become root rather than type sudo over and over.
That's what "sudo -i" is for.
On 04/26/2018 12:54 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
I'm curious what you find you need to use a root login for.
If I need to do more than one or two things as root, it's easier to
become root rather than type sudo over and over.
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On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
Good to know that it will always be there. Habit for me is to use root
and su instead of sudo. old dog - new tricks :-)
Same here. If I ever had to work with Ubuntu, one of the first things
I'd do is set the root password. As things are now, you're
On 04/26/2018 12:14 PM, stan wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:05:28 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:
I think the majority opinion now is that logging in as the root user
is discouraged. In almost all cases sudo is sufficient and if you
need to do root things for a while, just use "sudo
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:05:28 -0700
Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote:
> The home directory for root is /root.
Good to know that it will always be there. Habit for me is to use root
and su instead of sudo. old dog - new tricks :-)
> I think the majority opinion now is
On 04/26/2018 11:25 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 01:03:58PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I installed Virtual Manager in this Fedora 27 workstation system and
created afedora 28 beta installation and was surprised to find I
haveonly user bobg, no root account. Sometimes it's
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 01:03:58PM -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I installed Virtual Manager in this Fedora 27 workstation system and
> created afedora 28 beta installation and was surprised to find I
> haveonly user bobg, no root account. Sometimes it's convenient to
> keep a work space for root
On 04/26/2018 10:53 AM, stan wrote:
Thanks for the info. Does there have to be a home directory for
the obligatory root account? The tone of the discussions I read was
that root user was an anachronism, and linux would be better without
it. That's only my interpretation, of course, so it
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:30:37 -0700
Samuel Sieb wrote:
> There *has* to be a root account. By default there is no root
> password unless you set one during the installation. I think there
> has been talk of removing that option from the installer. All you
> have to do is "sudo
On 04/26/18 13:25, Bob Goodwin wrote:
When you did the install, did you create a password for root? If not,
then do "sudo passwd" and set one. The easier method though might be
to just use "sudo -i".
_
That worked ...
[bobg@localhost-live ~]$ sudo passwd
[sudo] password for bobg:
On 04/26/2018 10:25 AM, stan wrote:
I think I remember reading that there will be no default root
account after install of F28 or later. Again, I think I remember the
workaround was to use sudo, and then create a root account with
useradd. You will have to specify the root directory as /root
On 04/26/2018 10:24 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
On 04/26/18 13:17, Samuel Sieb wrote:
When you did the install, did you create a password for root? If not,
then do "sudo passwd" and set one. The easier method though might be
to just use "sudo -i".
I will try that. I did the install several
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 13:03:58 -0400
Bob Goodwin wrote:
> I installed Virtual Manager in this Fedora 27 workstation system and
> created afedora 28 beta installation and was surprised to find I
> haveonly user bobg, no root account. Sometimes it's convenient to
> keep a
On 04/26/18 13:17, Samuel Sieb wrote:
When you did the install, did you create a password for root? If not,
then do "sudo passwd" and set one. The easier method though might be
to just use "sudo -i".
_
I will try that. I did the install several times thinking I was having
trouble
On 04/26/18 13:17, Samuel Sieb wrote:
When you did the install, did you create a password for root? If not,
then do "sudo passwd" and set one. The easier method though might be
to just use "sudo -i".
_
I will try that. I did the install several times thinking I was having
trouble
On 04/26/2018 10:03 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I installed Virtual Manager in this Fedora 27 workstation system and
created afedora 28 beta installation and was surprised to find I
haveonly user bobg, no root account. Sometimes it's convenient to keep a
work space for root and I was unable to do
.
I installed Virtual Manager in this Fedora 27 workstation system and
created afedora 28 beta installation and was surprised to find I
haveonly user bobg, no root account. Sometimes it's convenient to keep a
work space for root and I was unable to do that, could not do dnf
upgrade or
On 05/02/2014 08:42 AM, Rex Dieter wrote:
Emmett Culley wrote:
On 04/30/2014 10:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 04/30/2014 08:25 AM, Emmett Culley wrote:
Any ideas how to get apps to require the root password instead of my
user password?
Take yourself out of wheel.
I was in the users group,
Emmett Culley wrote:
On 04/30/2014 10:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 04/30/2014 08:25 AM, Emmett Culley wrote:
Any ideas how to get apps to require the root password instead of my
user password?
Take yourself out of wheel.
I was in the users group, but not in the wheel group.
Also, I have
On 04/30/2014 10:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 04/30/2014 08:25 AM, Emmett Culley wrote:
Any ideas how to get apps to require the root password instead of my user
password?
Take yourself out of wheel.
I was in the users group, but not in the wheel group.
Also, I have all sudoers disabled
I've noticed recently that when I run yumex, or most any other app that needs
root permission, from the launcher menu, I am prompted for my user password,
instead of the root password. So I assume sudo is being used instead of su.
The run backend with sudo is not checked in yumex preferences.
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 08:25 -0700, Emmett Culley wrote:
It is interesting that my other workstation works differently. That
is, yumex doesn't prompt for the root password until it is about to do
something that requires root permissison. But it is asking for the
root password, not my user
On 04/30/2014 08:25 AM, Emmett Culley wrote:
Any ideas how to get apps to require the root password instead of my user
password?
Take yourself out of wheel.
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