On Sun, 2023-02-26 at 11:24 -0500, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 15:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> > > On 2/25/23 14:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you
> > > > don't need a separate command. With
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 15:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
>> On 2/25/23 14:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>> Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you
>>> don't need a separate command. With the plugin installed
>>> it just runs automatically.
>>
>> So when you
On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 15:43 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 2/25/23 14:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you don't need
> > a
> > separate command. With the plugin installed it just runs
> > automatically.
>
> So when you use dnf upgrade, it also t
snapper (I believe this is suse's tool) can be installed on Fedora.
Unfortunately it takes a little extra work to setup the subvolumes
correctly. I found an article (on reddit?) and mine are setup as:
sudo btrfs subvolume list /
ID 256 gen 149284 top level 5 path root
ID 257 gen 149284 top level
On 2/25/23 14:58, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Now part of the python3-dnf-plugins-core package so you don't need a
separate command. With the plugin installed it just runs automatically.
So when you use dnf upgrade, it also tells you what needs restarting?
Cool!
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> On 25 Feb 2023, at 22:00, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 12:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
>>> On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>> If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates
>>> with
>>> dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for
On Sat, 2023-02-25 at 12:53 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates
> > with
> > dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for
> > restarting
> > everything that needs to be and deal with issu
On Sat, Feb 25, 2023 at 12:53:59PM -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates with
> > dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for restarting
> > everything that needs to be and deal with issue
On 2/25/23 11:20, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
If you really don't like it you can choose to just apply updates with
dnf directly/live. Of course you will then be responsible for restarting
everything that needs to be and deal with issues with running
applications that have issues with being updated in thi
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 09:31:22AM -0500, John Mellor wrote:
> Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes
> anyway.
>
> We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.
> However, there has been almost nothing done to take advantage of its
> capa
[quoting is a bit improper here - I have tried to fix it where I noticed]
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 4:15 PM John Mellor wrote:
>> and Go Canes replied
> At this point, I doubt that EXT2 is better debugged than BTRFS, and its use
> has a number of detrimental effects. For one, it requires that yo
On Feb 24, 2023, at 09:31, John Mellor wrote:
>
> Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes
> anyway.
Nice. So you can casually disregard any comment right away. Clever.
> We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.
> However, there
Comments inline in blue (sorry to any monocolour readers on this list):
On 2023-02-24 12:20 p.m., Go Canes wrote:
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote:
1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partition? It is
no longer required, as the boot process has been able to u
On 2/24/2023 3:28 PM, John Mellor wrote:
On 2023-02-24 12:46 p.m., GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
On 24/02/2023 15:31, John Mellor wrote:
Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes
anyway.
We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.
However,
On 2023-02-24 12:46 p.m., GianPiero Puccioni wrote:
On 24/02/2023 15:31, John Mellor wrote:
Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes
anyway.
We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.
However, there has been almost nothing done to take
On 24/02/2023 15:31, John Mellor wrote:
Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes
anyway.
We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.
However, there has been almost nothing done to take advantage of its
capabilities.
Personally, default
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 8:31 AM John Mellor wrote:
> 6) Compression is not the default. Why not? SSDs are 10x slower and
> disks are 100x slower than the processors of even 10 years ago, so this
> omission is slowing the system down.
>
I thought zstd level 1 was the default for SSDs and level
I believe LSB calls for the eventual migration to btrfs as default
filesystem. For Linux in general from ext.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 12:18 PM John Mellor wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote:
>
> . . . (snipped)
>
> 1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partit
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote:
> 1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partition? It is
> no longer required, as the boot process has been able to use BTRFS for
> years now.
/boot is critical and using a well debugged file system for it to me
seems like an exce
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote:
. . . (snipped)
1) When are we going to see removal of the EXT2 /boot partition? It is
no longer required, as the boot process has been able to use BTRFS
for
years now.
. . . (snipped)
On 2023-02-24 09:38, Bill C wrote:
Ending of ext? Hopefully never. They are like the fats, old reliable, and
over course featureless or simple imo.
On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, 9:31 AM John Mellor wrote:
> Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes
> anyway.
>
> We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem
Ok, I'm anticipating a firestorm of BS responses on this, but here goes
anyway.
We've now had BTRFS as the default filesystem for some time in Fedora.
However, there has been almost nothing done to take advantage of its
capabilities. This leads to some obvious questions about future work:
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