Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-21 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/20/19 1:40 PM, Roger Heflin wrote: I am seeing it occurring on the new kernels on f30, so the kernel does seem what is doing it. There is a new kernel every two days or so. The fix should be coming shortly ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-20 Thread George N. White III
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 17:41, Roger Heflin wrote: > I am seeing it occurring on the new kernels on f30, so the kernel does > seem what is doing it. > xhci has a bug affecting many USB devices across many hardware configurations and kernels 4.20 and later. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-20 Thread Roger Heflin
I am seeing it occurring on the new kernels on f30, so the kernel does seem what is doing it. I was figuring another new laptop was in my future. On Tue, Nov 19, 2019 at 10:23 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 11/19/19 4:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 16:38:33 -0800 > >

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/19/19 4:50 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 16:38:33 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Also, have you tried other mice/keyboards from other manufacturer? I would be really suspicious of your peripheral hardware at this point. I've used these for years, and this only started

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread jdow
On 20191119 15:04:58, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:42:31 -0400 George N. White III wrote: EFI is looking like a red herring. Next on the list of suspects with access to both systems is power management. Have a look at USB Power Management for Linux 5.3

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 16:38:33 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Also, have you tried other mice/keyboards from > other manufacturer? I would be really suspicious > of your peripheral hardware at this point. I've used these for years, and this only started happening when fedora 31 was installe

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/19/19 3:49 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 15:28:04 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Never have any issue with the USB ports on the motherboard. Are the malfunction port(s) on your motherboard? On the motherboard on both systems. I've tried disabling the USB power manageme

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 15:28:04 -0800 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Never have any issue with the USB ports on the motherboard. > Are the malfunction port(s) on your motherboard? On the motherboard on both systems. I've tried disabling the USB power management on the hub and I'll see what that doe

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/18/19 12:46 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: I'm now running fedora 31 on my system at home and at work. On both systems I occasionally notice all my xinput settings have reverted to default, as if I unplugged my mouse and plugged it back in (even though I didn't unplug it). Has anyone else noticed

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 18:42:31 -0400 George N. White III wrote: > EFI is looking like a red herring. Next on the list of > suspects with access to both systems is power > management. Have a look at USB Power Management for Linux 5.3 >

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 14:58, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:42:51 -0400 > George N. White III wrote: > > > The EFI message was introduced long ago.Has USB3 > > port usage changed since you upgraded to Fedora 31? > > Nope. The only thing different on both these systems > is fedor

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:42:51 -0400 George N. White III wrote: > The EFI message was introduced long ago.Has USB3 > port usage changed since you upgraded to Fedora 31? Nope. The only thing different on both these systems is fedora 31. At least it only happens every few hours (or even days), so

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 at 10:06, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 21:56:05 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > > > I wonder why yours shows as low-speed USB device. Just curious. > > Because it is plugged into a usb2 port to leave usb3 port free > for stuff that needs them. These are both wired mic

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/19 10:26 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > These machines are rather old. OK, I found the spec sheet for the MB on these system.  And, yes, all usb are USB 2.0. -- The key to getting good answers is to ask good questions. ___ users mailing list -- user

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/19 10:05 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 21:56:05 +0800 > Ed Greshko wrote: > >> I wonder why yours shows as low-speed USB device.  Just curious. > Because it is plugged into a usb2 port to leave usb3 port free > for stuff that needs them. These are both wired mice, not wirele

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 21:56:05 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: > I wonder why yours shows as low-speed USB device.  Just curious. Because it is plugged into a usb2 port to leave usb3 port free for stuff that needs them. These are both wired mice, not wireless. I was wondering if maybe older kernels used t

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/19 8:59 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Everyone seems to have ignored the important bits of info > in my original post: This only started happening when I > installed fedora 31, and it started happening on two separate > systems the same way :-). > > The mice worked for years with no problems be

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread sixpack13
On 19.11.19 13:59, Tom Horsley wrote: Everyone seems to have ignored the important bits of info in my original post: This only started happening when I installed fedora 31, and it started happening on two separate systems the same way :-). The mice worked for years with no problems before f31. _

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-19 Thread Tom Horsley
Everyone seems to have ignored the important bits of info in my original post: This only started happening when I installed fedora 31, and it started happening on two separate systems the same way :-). The mice worked for years with no problems before f31. _

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-18 Thread Tim via users
On Mon, 2019-11-18 at 21:07 -0400, George N. White III wrote: > Correct. From hub.c > > /* > * EM interference sometimes causes badly shielded USB devices > * to be shutdown by the hub, this hack enables them again. > * Works at least with mouse driver. > */ > if (!(portstatus & USB_PORT_STAT_EN

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-18 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 21:06, Roger Heflin wrote: > I have had 2 laptop USB ports die slowly (all ports slowly got > flakier, until the caused slowness issues from seemingly random > interrupts). I suspected it to be heat and poor cooling design > around the usb chips. So far 2 previous models

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-18 Thread George N. White III
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 at 17:24, fedorau...@online.de wrote: > On 18.11.19 21:46, Tom Horsley wrote: > ... > > > > I have no idea what an EMI is, but that's what starts everything. > > I guess it is "electromagnetic interference" > Correct. From hub.c

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-18 Thread Roger Heflin
I have had 2 laptop USB ports die slowly (all ports slowly got flakier, until the caused slowness issues from seemingly random interrupts). I suspected it to be heat and poor cooling design around the usb chips. So far 2 previous models slowly (not from the same labeled provider) became less and

Re: USB flakes out?

2019-11-18 Thread fedorau...@online.de
On 18.11.19 21:46, Tom Horsley wrote: ... I have no idea what an EMI is, but that's what starts everything. I guess it is "electromagnetic interference" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_interference -- sixpack13 ___ users mailing lis

USB flakes out?

2019-11-18 Thread Tom Horsley
I'm now running fedora 31 on my system at home and at work. On both systems I occasionally notice all my xinput settings have reverted to default, as if I unplugged my mouse and plugged it back in (even though I didn't unplug it). Has anyone else noticed USB weirdness like this? Looking at dmesg,