Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:49:36 +0930, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > > Checking, my /etc/default/grub contains SYSFONT=True and I'm wondering > > why I see the error message about the font True not being found. If > > so, can I simply edit that out and rebuild /

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.04.2013 02:57, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Well, earlier you stated > > "The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog > fedupdebug.log" > > But, very apparently, you've not upgraded to F19. So, best to just drop > it all and move on. Nothing on this >

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/25/2013 05:39 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. I'd think that the people on that list would want to know that you're unable to install F19 with fedup and th

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/26/13 09:06, Rick Stevens wrote: > (I don't think fedup is really fully baked yet). It isn't. For grins, I just tried it on a fully updated F18 system using fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog /root/fed1.log --instrepo http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/test/19-

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2013 05:49 PM, Ed Greshko issued this missive: On 04/26/13 08:39, Richard Vickery wrote: Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I supposed to

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/26/13 08:57, Richard Vickery wrote: > Fine by me if you don't want the help. You totally misunderstand. It isn't a matter of not wanting to help. It is a matter of you're asking questions about F19 and you've not upgraded to F19!!! So See you on the test list Where you ha

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/26/13 08:39, Richard Vickery wrote: > > Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test > list, is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. > > > > rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I sup

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/26/13 08:39, Richard Vickery wrote: > Since I'm not up on F19, there is really no reason to write to the test list, > is there? I believe I will give up with all this push-back. > > rpm -qa | grep fc19 produced nothing. How am I supposed to write this to the > test list when there is no con

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 04/26/13 06:23, Richard Vickery wrote: > > The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog > fedupdebug.log > > This will be my only comment on your issue since, as others have noted, > matters related to F19 need to be addre

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/26/13 06:23, Richard Vickery wrote: > The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log This will be my only comment on your issue since, as others have noted, matters related to F19 need to be addressed on the t...@lists.fedoraproject.org list I just tried

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.04.2013 01:35, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Reindl: > > I am now on 3.8 after # yum update kernel* earlier today.. which leaves the question open why are you on a 3.7.x from 2013-01 until today while others have their production servers for more than a month on 3.8.x Mar 10 17:11:47 Insta

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 26.04.2013 01:03, schrieb Reindl Harald: > > Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: > >> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than > thinking that, unlike what the website says, this > >> group is not so he

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
Hi Rick, Your suspicions are correct: $ cat /etc/issue Fedora release 18 (Spherical Cow) Kernel \r on an \m (\l) On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 04/25/2013 03:10 PM, Patrick Lists issued this missive: > > On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: >> >>> Thank y

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.04.2013 01:03, schrieb Reindl Harald: > Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: >> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking >> that, unlike what the website says, this >> group is not so helpful. >> >> If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rat

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.04.2013 23:04, schrieb Richard Vickery: > Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking > that, unlike what the website says, this > group is not so helpful. > > If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? > > $ uname -rsvp > Linux 3.7.2-20

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Patrick Lists
On 04/26/2013 12:23 AM, Richard Vickery wrote: [snip] The command called was: sudo fedup-cli --network 19 --debuglog fedupdebug.log Right, sorry I missed that you tried a fedup. I'm afraid I don't have a solution. I never used fedup nor did an upgrade. I always do a clean install to prevent t

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 14:42 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > I think that many of the responses Richard received read as "you're > asking the wrong list, go away and ask on the correct list" without > ever telling him what the correct list WAS. Rick If you check back in the archives you'll see that I

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 02:21:18PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: > > >If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? [...chomp...chomp...chomp...] > The odds are that you have an option in your yum configuration that >

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Patrick Lists < fedora-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl> wrote: > On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: > >> Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking >> that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. >> >> If I am o

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2013 03:10 PM, Patrick Lists issued this missive: On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rat

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: > >> >> On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" > > wrote: >> > >> > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Patrick Lists
On 04/25/2013 11:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. If I am on the alpha program, why am I on 3.7x rather than 3.8x? $ uname -rsvp Linux 3.7.2-204.fc18.x86_64 #1

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2013 02:38 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote: > > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens mailto:ri...@alldigital.c

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2013 02:25 PM, Joe Zeff issued this missive: On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. As a matter of fact, this group has done everything

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 25, 2013 2:22 PM, "Rick Stevens" wrote: > > On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens > > wrote: >> >> >> Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the >

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery wrote: Thank you! An answer I can reply happily with / to, rather than thinking that, unlike what the website says, this group is not so helpful. As a matter of fact, this group has done everything it could to help you. It's repeatedly told you where

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2013 02:04 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens mailto:ri...@alldigital.com>> wrote: Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the >> internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I >> continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it >> might be possible to take

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Rick Stevens
On 04/25/2013 01:12 PM, Richard Vickery issued this missive: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan mailto:pocallag...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and > d

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Steve Searle
Around 09:12pm on Thursday, April 25, 2013 (UK time), Richard Vickery scrawled: > Because I, like many other general, non-tech users out here on the > internet who don't understand the lists, am ignorant. This is why I > continue asking on the wrong list. If you want to be more helpful, it might >

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 13:12:43 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: Frankly, I don't exactly know where this exact list is, and not being on that list, it is impossible both to get a reply AND to get mail that I replied to, such as I did here. I know how governments, courts, legislation, and such

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > > I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and > > didn't > > have an option to boot into it on grub; ought I have added the a link > > to > > the new ke

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 10:44 -0700, Richard Vickery wrote: > I feel the needs to ask a question here: I did a fedup to f19 and > didn't > have an option to boot into it on grub; ought I have added the a link > to > the new kernel? I went to do this, but none of the files in grub2 look > like > the "

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Vickery
On Apr 24, 2013 2:31 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 24.04.2013 23:21, schrieb Phil Dobbin: > > On 04/24/2013 05:55 PM, poma wrote: > > > >> On 24.04.2013 16:17, Regina Anger wrote: > >>> Hello Ed, > >>> > Yes, it has been mentioned on the "test" list several times. > It has been s

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.04.2013 01:25, schrieb Joe Zeff: > On 04/24/2013 02:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> as any other kernel-param in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and >> /etc/default/grub while the latter is what will be used >> by grub2-mkconfig > > Checking, my /etc/default/grub contains SYSFONT=True and I'm wonderin

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/24/2013 10:19 PM, Tim wrote: I've never seen the associated errors people have discussed regarding SYSFONT=True (i.e. stalled boots). I've not seen any problems either, on my desktop. My laptop, however, complains about it every time I boot. So far, it hasn't seemed to make a differen

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread poma
On 24.04.2013 23:21, Phil Dobbin wrote: > On 04/24/2013 05:55 PM, poma wrote: > >> On 24.04.2013 16:17, Regina Anger wrote: >>> Hello Ed, >>> Yes, it has been mentioned on the "test" list several times. It has been suggested to try adding 'slub_debug=-' to the kernel parameters.

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 24 April 2013, Joe Zeff sent: > Checking, my /etc/default/grub contains SYSFONT=True and I'm wondering > why I see the error message about the font True not being found. If > so, can I simply edit that out and rebuild /boot/grub2.grub.cfg? I've never seen the associated er

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Joe Zeff
On 04/24/2013 02:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: as any other kernel-param in /boot/grub2/grub.cfg and /etc/default/grub while the latter is what will be used by grub2-mkconfig Checking, my /etc/default/grub contains SYSFONT=True and I'm wondering why I see the error message about the font True no

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 04/24/2013 10:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 24.04.2013 23:21, schrieb Phil Dobbin: >> On 04/24/2013 05:55 PM, poma wrote: >> >>> On 24.04.2013 16:17, Regina Anger wrote: Hello Ed, > Yes, it has been mentioned on the "test" list several times. > It has been suggested

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.04.2013 23:21, schrieb Phil Dobbin: > On 04/24/2013 05:55 PM, poma wrote: > >> On 24.04.2013 16:17, Regina Anger wrote: >>> Hello Ed, >>> Yes, it has been mentioned on the "test" list several times. It has been suggested to try adding 'slub_debug=-' to the kernel paramete

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 04/24/2013 05:55 PM, poma wrote: > On 24.04.2013 16:17, Regina Anger wrote: >> Hello Ed, >> >>> Yes, it has been mentioned on the "test" list several times. >>> It has been suggested to try adding 'slub_debug=-' to the kernel parameters. >> >> Thx a lot, works now like a charme :) > > https:

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread poma
On 24.04.2013 16:17, Regina Anger wrote: > Hello Ed, > >> Yes, it has been mentioned on the "test" list several times. >> It has been suggested to try adding 'slub_debug=-' to the kernel parameters. > > Thx a lot, works now like a charme :) https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KernelDebugStrategy

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 15:58 +0200, Regina Anger wrote: > Greetings, > > Because F17 and F18 installers have bugs when installing with encryption > enabled for "/" on my notebook (and the F18 respin does not start > installation at all) I decided to give F19-alpha a try. > > However, the system

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Lawrence Graves
On 04/24/2013 07:58 AM, Regina Anger wrote: Greetings, Because F17 and F18 installers have bugs when installing with encryption enabled for "/" on my notebook (and the F18 respin does not start installation at all) I decided to give F19-alpha a try. However, the system runs very slow (compa

RE: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Regina Anger
Hello Ed, > Yes, it has been mentioned on the "test" list several times. > It has been suggested to try adding 'slub_debug=-' to the kernel parameters. Thx a lot, works now like a charme :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubsc

Re: Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/24/13 21:58, Regina Anger wrote: > Greetings, > > Because F17 and F18 installers have bugs when installing with encryption > enabled for "/" on my notebook (and the F18 respin does not start > installation at all) I decided to give F19-alpha a try. > > However, the system runs very slow (co

Why is Fedora-19-alpha so extremely slow?

2013-04-24 Thread Regina Anger
Greetings, Because F17 and F18 installers have bugs when installing with encryption enabled for "/" on my notebook (and the F18 respin does not start installation at all) I decided to give F19-alpha a try. However, the system runs very slow (compared to F17 on the same notebook) - XOrg perform