Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-10 Thread Jonathan Ryshpan
On Wed, 2015-12-09 at 15:06 -0500, Fernando Cassia wrote: > On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > > It's a terrible name for anyone who knows motor racing: it > > indicates > > a total failure. > What is wrong with the Linux world that prevents it from using human > readable packag

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-10 Thread jd1008
On 12/10/2015 04:51 AM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 09 December 2015, Ralf Corsepius sent: My view: The only thing that was wrong with yum, was it being work-in-progress, when its maintainer passed away. One hopes that something as central as the updating/installing tool would be (a) wo

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 December 2015 at 14:44, Ian Malone wrote: > On 10 December 2015 at 11:51, Tim wrote: >> Allegedly, on or about 09 December 2015, Ralf Corsepius sent: >>> My view: The only thing that was wrong with yum, was it being >>> work-in-progress, when its maintainer passed away. >> >> One hopes that

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 December 2015 at 11:51, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 09 December 2015, Ralf Corsepius sent: >> My view: The only thing that was wrong with yum, was it being >> work-in-progress, when its maintainer passed away. > > One hopes that something as central as the updating/installing tool >

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-10 Thread Jan Zelený
On 10. 12. 2015 at 22:21:42, Tim wrote: > Allegedly, on or about 09 December 2015, Ralf Corsepius sent: > > My view: The only thing that was wrong with yum, was it being > > work-in-progress, when its maintainer passed away. > > One hopes that something as central as the updating/installing tool >

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-10 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 December 2015, Ralf Corsepius sent: > My view: The only thing that was wrong with yum, was it being > work-in-progress, when its maintainer passed away. One hopes that something as central as the updating/installing tool would be (a) worked on by more than one person, a

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-10 Thread Tim
Tim wrote: >> As acronyms go, I think it's an odd one, too. DNF in sporting parlance >> means did not finish. To other people, it might mean do not f**k. Joe Zeff: > Why couldn't you spell out fork properly. Or were you referring to fsck? I left it so people could use whatever f**k word they w

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Bruce Byfield
This is the rationale I was told: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Will-DNF-Replace-Yum -- Bruce Byfield 604-421-7189 (on Pacific time) https://brucebyfield.wordpress.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://adm

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 9, 2015 4:17 AM, "Junayeed Ahnaf" wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I haven’t been using Fedora for a while (2+ years) and yesterday I installed fedora on dad’s computer and see that they replaced yum with dnf. Now the question is why was this done ? And who names their package manager as “DNF” ? T

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > It's a terrible name for anyone who knows motor racing: it indicates > a total failure. > What is wrong with the Linux world that prevents it from using human readable package names that indicate its FUNCTION? Fedora-package-manager was not

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread jd1008
On 12/09/2015 12:37 PM, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: What's interesting to me, is that you cannot compile the very last working yum and expect it to build and work flawlessly in in fc22 and later. THAT is more upsetting to me than the issues/problems in dnf. Why is that? What’s the problem ? Any spec

RE: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
> What's interesting to me, is that you cannot compile the very last working yum and expect it to build and work flawlessly in in fc22 and later. THAT is more upsetting to me than the issues/problems in dnf. > Why is that? What’s the problem ? Any specific library it is built against became non s

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread jd1008
On 12/09/2015 11:47 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/09/2015 07:33 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 12/09/2015 11:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/09/2015 03:21 AM, Tim wrote: As acronyms go, I think it's an odd one, too. DNF in sporting parlance means did not finish. To other people, it might mean do n

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Andrew Haley
On 12/09/2015 11:31 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-09 at 16:17 +0600, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: >> I haven't been using Fedora for a while (2+ years) and yesterday I >> installed >> fedora on dad's computer and see that they replaced yum with dnf. Now >> the >> question is why was thi

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/09/2015 07:33 PM, jd1008 wrote: On 12/09/2015 11:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/09/2015 03:21 AM, Tim wrote: As acronyms go, I think it's an odd one, too. DNF in sporting parlance means did not finish. To other people, it might mean do not f**k. Why couldn't you spell out fork properl

RE: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org] On Behalf Of jd1008 Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 12:34 AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Why was YUM removed On 12/09/2015 11:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/09/2015 03:21 AM, Tim wrote: >> As acronyms go, I think it's a

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread jd1008
On 12/09/2015 11:27 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/09/2015 03:21 AM, Tim wrote: As acronyms go, I think it's an odd one, too. DNF in sporting parlance means did not finish. To other people, it might mean do not f**k. Why couldn't you spell out fork properly. Or were you referring to fsck? Se

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/09/2015 03:21 AM, Tim wrote: As acronyms go, I think it's an odd one, too. DNF in sporting parlance means did not finish. To other people, it might mean do not f**k. Why couldn't you spell out fork properly. Or were you referring to fsck? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 11:31:14 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > as "DNF" > > ? The name seems pretty weird to be honest. > > No wierder than YUM (Yellow-dog Updater Modified) Well, it had started as a modified "yup" (the Yellow Dog Linux Updater), but it's certainly weird to keep the name

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2015-12-09 at 16:17 +0600, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: > I haven't been using Fedora for a while (2+ years) and yesterday I > installed > fedora on dad's computer and see that they replaced yum with dnf. Now > the > question is why was this done ? And who names their package manager > as "DNF" >

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 December 2015, Junayeed Ahnaf sent: > And who names their package manager as “DNF” ? The name seems pretty > weird to be honest. As acronyms go, I think it's an odd one, too. DNF in sporting parlance means did not finish. To other people, it might mean do not f**k. -

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
> http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/user_faq.html and: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF#Detailed_Description -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Condu

Re: Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 16:17:00 +0600, Junayeed Ahnaf wrote: > Hello, > > > > I haven't been using Fedora for a while (2+ years) and yesterday I installed > fedora on dad's computer and see that they replaced yum with dnf. Now the > question is why was this done ? And who names their package mana

Why was YUM removed

2015-12-09 Thread Junayeed Ahnaf
Hello, I haven't been using Fedora for a while (2+ years) and yesterday I installed fedora on dad's computer and see that they replaced yum with dnf. Now the question is why was this done ? And who names their package manager as "DNF" ? The name seems pretty weird to be honest. Thanks for