Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-15 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 20:07 +, mike cloaked wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:04 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash -

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread Rich Boyce
On 13/12/11 19:17, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/13/2011 10:39 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: At least around here, it's common that a home user's DSL or cable connection's upstream bandwidth is a magnitude smaller than his downstream bandwidth. Yes. That's why it's correctly called ADSL, with the A

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread Frank Murphy
On 13/12/11 19:17, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/13/2011 10:39 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: At least around here, it's common that a home user's DSL or cable connection's upstream bandwidth is a magnitude smaller than his downstream bandwidth. Yes. That's why it's correctly called ADSL, with the A

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/14/2011 05:48 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: Just me being nosey. *DSL may be more correct as OP could have SDSL. OP (me I think) was actually using mobile broadband at the time .. :-) so neither really ... not that it matters much ... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 19:39 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/13/2011 03:26 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500 Genes MailListsli...@sapience.com wrote: I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 19:39 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/13/2011 03:26 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500 Genes MailListsli...@sapience.com  wrote:    I just had the lovely

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:07 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote: When not using the retrace server, abrt usually just uploads the text backtrace, not the coredump.  (I believe you can instruct it to do so, but it doesn't do so by default and I have never needed to.)  When

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 13:07 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 19:39 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/13/2011 03:26 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500 Genes

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:30 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that this facility is not available for f15 unfortunately so you need to be on f16 at least to have this package available in the normal repos. I used the retrace server many times when I was running F15. It

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mar, 13/12/2011 alle 07.57 -0500, Genes MailLists ha scritto: That said - how do I remove it? # yum remove abrt -- Dario Lesca (Inviato dal mio Fedora Linux) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-14 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/14/2011 09:41 PM, Dario Lesca wrote: Il giorno mar, 13/12/2011 alle 07.57 -0500, Genes MailLists ha scritto: That said - how do I remove it? # yum remove abrt I had no such package before or after ... yet abrtd ran anyway .. the only reference in the package database was to

abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Genes MailLists
I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need. I think abrtd needs help with its decisions ... it appears way too naive in the debuginfo files it

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500 Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote: I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need. It's not bright in

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/13/2011 03:26 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500 Genes MailListsli...@sapience.com wrote: I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including things it quite obviously (to a

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff
On 12/13/2011 10:39 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: At least around here, it's common that a home user's DSL or cable connection's upstream bandwidth is a magnitude smaller than his downstream bandwidth. Yes. That's why it's correctly called ADSL, with the A standing for Asynchronous. It's almost

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:  I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need.  I think abrtd needs

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:04 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:  I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:07 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:04 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:  I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Alan Cox
It's not bright in some cases. Just tell it not to. The newest version of abrt will upload dumps to a server to crunch instead which is a lot more sociable. Which file sizes are you talking about? Depends what crashes - but probably of the order of 1,000 times less than a big set of

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Tom Horsley
Which file sizes are you talking about? Depends what crashes - but probably of the order of 1,000 times less than a big set of debug packages I can think of a couple of ways to improve things: 1. Separate out the debuginfo rpms into a zillion independent rpms with one and only one library

Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/13/2011 01:39 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/13/2011 03:26 PM, Alan Cox wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500 Genes MailListsli...@sapience.com wrote: I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo