On 01/02/2014 12:54 PM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
A question, I found the following on
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html
dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
In Yum, the running kernel is spared. There is no reason to keep this in
DNF, the user can always specify
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:22:41 +0200
Adrian Sevcenco adrian.sevce...@cern.ch wrote:
(Murphy says that it will :) )
Thanks!
Adrian
I said nothing of the kind!
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On 01/03/2014 12:29 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jan 2014 12:22:41 +0200
Adrian Sevcenco adrian.sevce...@cern.ch wrote:
(Murphy says that it will :) )
Thanks!
Adrian
I said nothing of the kind!
:)) Sorry, i was talking about this [1]
But, wouldn't you agree with the statement?
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
On 01/02/2014 03:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That would imply that someone actually took the decision to *remove* the
protections against leaving the system with no installed kernel. Was
this discussed? What were the
Allegedly, on or about 02 January 2014, Ales Kozumplik sent:
In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase -y kernel' by
accident and we don't feel the need to protect users who really know
what they are doing from doing so. It's the same situation as 'rm
-rf /boot' or 'rpm -e
Hi
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That would imply that someone actually took the decision to *remove* the
protections against leaving the system with no installed kernel. Was this
discussed? What were the proposers smoking?
I don't think that is implied here.
On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Adrian Sevcenco
adrian.sevce...@cern.ch wrote:
On 01/02/2014 12:54 PM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
A question, I found the following on
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html
dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
In Yum, the running kernel
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:33:18 +0100
Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote:
We look forward to hear your feedback and kindly ask you to use
bugzilla to report any issues found.
How does it handle yum plugins?,
I use yum (updateonboot) --security
on all daily reboot boxes. # + all other
On 01/02/2014 11:45 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:33:18 +0100
Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote:
We look forward to hear your feedback and kindly ask you to use
bugzilla to report any issues found.
How does it handle yum plugins?,
I use yum (updateonboot) --security
A question, I found the following on
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html
dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
In Yum, the running kernel is spared. There is no reason to keep this in
DNF, the user can always specify concrete versions on the command line,
e.g.:
dnf
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:50:56 +0100
Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote:
we won't support Yum plugins directly but will support a plugin
mechanism and will actively help with porting the plugins. If there
are specific plugins you'd like to see sooner please open bugs for
them.
On 01/02/2014 11:54 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
A question, I found the following on
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html
dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
In Yum, the running kernel is spared. There is no reason to keep this in
DNF, the user can always specify
On 01/02/2014 12:13 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
The kernel is a master piece of a package which must be allowed to be
installed in multiple instances and of which at least the running
instance must not be removed under any circumstances.
Thanks Ralf. Just to clarify: DNF supports multiple
On 01/02/2014 11:58 AM, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 11:50:56 +0100
Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote:
we won't support Yum plugins directly but will support a plugin
mechanism and will actively help with porting the plugins. If there
are specific plugins you'd like to see
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote:
yes that's the idea. In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase
-y kernel' by accident and we don't feel the need to protect users who
really know what they are doing from doing so. It's the same situation as
On 01/02/2014 11:54 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
yes that's the idea. In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase
-y kernel' by accident and we don't feel the need to protect users who
really know what they are doing from doing so.
I would urge you to reconsider this given the importance
On Thu, Jan 02, 2014 at 12:01:09PM +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Ales Kozumplik akozu...@redhat.com wrote:
yes that's the idea. In practice however, a user doesn't type 'dnf erase
-y kernel' by accident and we don't feel the need to protect users who
On Thu, 2 Jan 2014 13:15:22 +0100
Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
Is there any scenario where removing all kernels would make sense?
writing malware :)
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Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora
users in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that
aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22.
Yum works perfectly well, in my experience.
The problems you discuss are never met by the
On 2. 1. 2014 at 13:32:23, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora
users in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that
aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22.
Yum works perfectly well, in my
2.1.2014 14:15, Suvayu Ali kirjoitti:
Is there any scenario where removing all kernels would make sense?
If you are running a custom kernel compiled from a tarball, removing all
kernel RPM packages may make sense.
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On 02.01.2014 12:13, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 01/02/2014 11:54 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
A question, I found the following on
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html
dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
In Yum, the running kernel is spared. There is no reason to keep
On 01/02/2014 02:01 PM, Jan Zelený wrote:
On 2. 1. 2014 at 13:32:23, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora
users in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that
aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22.
On 02/01/14 18:10, poma wrote:
On 02.01.2014 12:13, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 01/02/2014 11:54 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
A question, I found the following on
http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html
dnf erase kernel deletes all packages called kernel
In Yum, the running kernel is
On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 19:15 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Says who and has decided who?
If Fedora was an openly lead project, a yum competitor such as dnf would
be evaluated against yum and a decision be drawn at an arbitrary future
point in time.
This is the first I've heard of dnf,
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
At this point I will repeat that dnf is based on the original yum code so
for
vast majority of users the change will not be noticeable and everything
will
continue to work the same.
That would imply that someone actually
On Jan 2, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
At this point I will repeat that dnf is based on the original yum code so for
vast majority of users the change will not be noticeable and
On 01/02/2014 03:42 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
That would imply that someone actually took the decision to *remove* the
protections against leaving the system with no installed kernel. Was
this discussed? What were the proposers smoking?
It's always been a principle that *nix won't stop
Hi.
I'm not a power user of yum.
I''ve never used dnf, didn't even know it existed until a few days ago
via this thread.
And I don't mean this to be a dig at the dev team of the app/function.
However, given some of the points made in this thread, I'm wondering
if the devs of this app have
On 12/20/2013 12:33 PM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora
users in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that
aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22. Please check out the blog post
for more information:
A question, I
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:33:18PM +0100, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
Hello,
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora users
in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that aims to fully
replace Yum by Fedora 22. Please check out the blog post for more
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
I have been using this since F20 release. I noticed there is no
completion available, unlike yum. I can probably reuse yum's completion
with dnf by simply `complete -F _yum dnf', but I'm afraid that will be
unaware of the subtle
On 2 January 2014 02:07, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote:
HI
On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote:
I have been using this since F20 release. I noticed there is no
completion available, unlike yum. I can probably reuse yum's completion
with dnf by simply `complete -F
On 01/01/2014 11:13 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote:
On 12/20/2013 12:33 PM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora
users in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that
aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22. Please check out
Hello,
On behalf of the DNF team I'd like to invite all the interested Fedora
users in trying out and testing DNF in Fedora 20. DNF is a tool that
aims to fully replace Yum by Fedora 22. Please check out the blog post
for more information:
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