Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-24 Thread Darr
On Tuesday, 24 August, 2010 @06:13 zulu, Michael Schwendt scribed: > Where is the confusion? Linux and Windows don't share their > swap partition with eachother, so a Suspend-To-Disk option in > addition to Suspend-To-RAM is useful. I'm not sure windows uses a separate swap space for its hibernat

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-24 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 08/24/2010 02:13 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:42:38 -0500, Aaron wrote: > >> Either get rid of the hibernate option or arrange for the Boot >> process to detect the record of the system state saved by hibernate. >> >> Currently hibernate is useless. > > What is useless

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:42:38 -0500, Aaron wrote: > Either get rid of the hibernate option or arrange for the Boot > process to detect the record of the system state saved by hibernate. > > Currently hibernate is useless. What is useless about it? Have you ever used it before? > Soo ir might as

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 17:51 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > You were lucky. Hibernating one OS, running another, and then waking > up the first can leave the hardware in unpredictable states (IIRC the > power management modes don't define support for that). Linux tries to > reset things, but it isn't

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Greg Woods said: > Yes, but I want to switch to Windows, and *then* return to Linux in the > same state. It is possible to do this, I have done it in the past and it > is quite a time saver, You were lucky. Hibernating one OS, running another, and then waking up the first can l

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 15:49 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Somewhere the point is missed. The whole point of hibernate is to be > able to return to the same operating system in the same state. So far, so good. > If you want to switch from Linux to Windows, restart does that. Yes, but I want to s

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 17:30 +, JB wrote: > Greg Woods ucar.edu> writes: > > > > > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 16:59 +, JB wrote: > > > > > Now, to try to accommodate your idea, the obvious requirement would be to > > > have a private hibernation area/file (swap file ?) for each > > > OS/distr

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:36 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > On 08/23/2010 08:48 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:05 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > >> On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > >>> > >>> I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. > >>> Hibernate sa

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 17:30 +, JB wrote: > But if you present a menu selection between one Linux (hibernated) and Win, > then > the user, immediatelly or after finishing with Win, may decide to NOT return > to > last hibernated Linux, but instead select another Linux menu item, Sorry for no

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread JB
Greg Woods ucar.edu> writes: > > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 16:59 +, JB wrote: > > > Now, to try to accommodate your idea, the obvious requirement would be to > > have a private hibernation area/file (swap file ?) for each > > OS/distro/kernel's machine state. > > Only the OS's that you care ab

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 16:59 +, JB wrote: > Now, to try to accommodate your idea, the obvious requirement would be to have > a private hibernation area/file (swap file ?) for each OS/distro/kernel's > machine state. Only the OS's that you care about hibernating. With just a Linux swap partitio

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 11:36 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > Grub is a general purpose boot loader. It does not know how to check > if there is an OS hibernating. I should also add that if the BIOS > supports it, and Linux know how to use it, it will resume directly > from disk without Grub ever entering th

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread JB
Greg Woods ucar.edu> writes: > > On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 07:12 +, JB wrote: > > Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > > > > Which means to me that if you hibernate while in > > > Linux it should come back to Linux. > > I actually find it useful that it does not, and I have been frustrated

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Mikkel
On 08/23/2010 08:48 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:05 -0500, Mikkel wrote: >> On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: >>> >>> I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. >>> Hibernate saves the state of the system at the time you tell it to >>> hi

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Hoang Le
ersion ). Hoang Le From: Greg Woods To: Community support for Fedora users Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 7:47:16 PM Subject: Re: grub menu is automatically skipped On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 07:12 +, JB wrote: > Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > &g

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 19:05 -0500, Mikkel wrote: > On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > > I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. > > Hibernate saves the state of the system at the time you tell it to > > hibernate. When you return you load back the syst

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 07:12 +, JB wrote: > Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > > Which means to me that if you hibernate while in > > Linux it should come back to Linux. I actually find it useful that it does not, and I have been frustrated by the recent change in behavior. I used to be a

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-23 Thread JB
Aaron Konstam sbcglobal.net> writes: > ... > I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. Hi, Aaron is right about his amazement. info grub ... -- Command: default num Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and the entry numbe

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Hoang Le
it didn't work properly. From: Aaron Konstam To: Community support for Fedora users Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 4:38:12 AM Subject: Re: grub menu is automatically skipped I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. Hibernate saves the

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Mikkel
On 08/22/2010 04:38 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > I am glad you solved you problem but I am amazed that default worked. > Hibernate saves the state of the system at the time you tell it to > hibernate. When you return you load back the system to the state you > had before hibernation. Which means

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 00:24 +0800, Hoang Le wrote: > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just > because the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my > laptop booted into fedora right away. Fed

[SOLVED] grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Hoang Le
r Fedora users Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 11:34:16 PM Subject: Re: grub menu is automatically skipped On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Hoang Le wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Pawan Sood
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Hoang Le wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just because > the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my laptop booted  > into fedora right away. F

Re: grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Pawan Sood
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Hoang Le wrote: > > Dear friends, > > I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. > After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just because > the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my laptop booted  > into fedora right away. F

grub menu is automatically skipped

2010-08-22 Thread Hoang Le
Dear friends, I have a problem with grub on fedora 13. After hibernation, I found that I couldn't boot into Windows 7 just because the grub menu showed up and disappear immediately and then my laptop booted into fedora right away. Fedora is my default entry. Now I must use a trick by adding "h