Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-28 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 4/14/24 14:20, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2024-04-14 at 09:49 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: Then in corporate life, I needed to ensure a stable development environment. This is one of the big problems with computers in the work place. You may have single-task computers which you want to work,

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-16 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/15/24 20:04, Tim via users wrote: Samuel Sieb: The only reason this is a problem for some manufacturers is because they want to keep it proprietary. Printers and scanners (and any other hardware) that use open standards or provide open-source drivers work great with Linux. Compare the

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-15 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> Let's be clear, we're not talking about annoying changes to how the >> desktop looks, that can be put up with. But when you find essential >> software and/or hardware doesn't work anymore, or doesn't exist >> anymore, and support libraries are incompatible, that's a deal-breaker. >> >>

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/24 11:20, Tim via users wrote: Let's be clear, we're not talking about annoying changes to how the desktop looks, that can be put up with. But when you find essential software and/or hardware doesn't work anymore, or doesn't exist anymore, and support libraries are incompatible, that's

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-14 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 4/14/24 06:49, Fulko Hew wrote: Thanks for giving me the guts to do a brute force power cycle in the apparent middle of an upgrade in progress. (FYI.  The upgrade to F39 also hung at the boot message,  and it too needed a power-cycle to successfully boot.) If it's still at the boot

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-14 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2024-04-14 at 09:49 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > Then in corporate life, I needed to ensure a stable development > environment. This is one of the big problems with computers in the work place. You may have single-task computers which you want to work, and not mess around with. You may

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-14 Thread Go Canes
On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 9:49 AM Fulko Hew wrote: > On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 7:16 AM Patrick O'Callaghan > wrote: > Then it was back to are-install for F33 because it was a hardware > replacement, and Linux/Fedora does not have a one-true backup/restore > process that I have ever seen. [...]

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-14 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 7:16 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2024-04-13 at 17:37 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > On Sat, 2024-04-13 at 13:29 -0700, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > > I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, > > > > so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 >

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-04-13 at 17:37 -0400, Fulko Hew wrote: > > On Sat, 2024-04-13 at 13:29 -0700, Fulko Hew wrote: > > > I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, > > > so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 Just as an aside: leaving a two year old Fedora system without

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-13 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 6:05 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 4:30 PM Fulko Hew wrote: > >> >> I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, >> so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 >> I used the: >> >> dnf system-update download --releasever=xx >>

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 4:30 PM Fulko Hew wrote: > > I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, > so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 > I used the: > > dnf system-update download --releasever=xx > process. > Related, you should follow <

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-13 Thread Fulko Hew
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 5:04 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2024-04-13 at 13:29 -0700, Fulko Hew wrote: > > I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, > > so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 > > I used the: > > > > dnf system-update download --releasever=xx

Re: how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2024-04-13 at 13:29 -0700, Fulko Hew wrote: > I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, > so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 > I used the: > > dnf system-update download --releasever=xx > process. > > - My first update from F35 to F36 worked. > - Then I did

how long does dnf system-upgrade take?

2024-04-13 Thread Fulko Hew
I don't update my Fedora systems unless I have a real need, so yesterday I started updating from F35 to F38 I used the: dnf system-update download --releasever=xx process. - My first update from F35 to F36 worked. - Then I did the F36 to F37 update. KDE wouldn't work until I uninstalled