Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-14 Thread lee
Marko Vojinovic writes: > On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:04 +0100 lee wrote: >> Tim writes: >> > There does appear to be some NetworkManager interface through the >> > command line. Dunno whether it's going to be of any use to you, >> > though. >> >> Hm I didn't find out what it is yet. > > man nm

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-14 Thread lee
Marko Vojinovic writes: > By the way, I find it very braindead to search for documentation or > configuration on NetworkManager, and not ever try the obvious > "man networkmanager". And the man is even case-insensitive, for your > convenience. > > In addition, in the SEE ALSO section it points yo

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
Oops, sorry, I forgot to answer this part... On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:04 +0100 lee wrote: > Of course I used tab comletion in the shell for /etc/network at first, > and that doesn't show up anything about networkmanager. Like I said > before, it's just braindead to name it /etc/NetworkManager

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-13 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:44:04 +0100 lee wrote: > Tim writes: > > There does appear to be some NetworkManager interface through the > > command line. Dunno whether it's going to be of any use to you, > > though. > > Hm I didn't find out what it is yet. man nmcli man nm-tool man nm-online man Net

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-13 Thread lee
Tim writes: > Tim: >> > If using Gnome, there's a desktop taskbar icon for NetworkManager, it >> > lets you pick a network out of a list of available networks (if there >> > are several to choose from), and there's an edit connections menu item >> > to customise particular choices. They could be

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-13 Thread Tim
Tim: > > If using Gnome, there's a desktop taskbar icon for NetworkManager, it > > lets you pick a network out of a list of available networks (if there > > are several to choose from), and there's an edit connections menu item > > to customise particular choices. They could be fully automatic (th

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-13 Thread lee
Timothy Murphy writes: > lee wrote: > >>> As I understand it, you have asked NM to manage your ethernet connection >>> (in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-em1). >>> I believe that NM over-writes /etc/resolv.conf if it cannot establish >>> the specified connection. >>> In my opinion this is s

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-13 Thread lee
jarmo writes: > Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:27:22 +0100 > lee kirjoitti: > >> Tim writes: >> >> > Tim: >> >> > _EXACTLY_ how are you giving it the data? >> > >> > Lee: >> >> I was using system-config-network and editing some files when it >> >> didn't work. >> > >> > Well, unless things have changed,

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread Tony Molloy
On Tuesday 13 November 2012 05:59:03 Zind wrote: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:43:54AM +, Tony Molloy wrote: > > On Saturday 10 November 2012 16:05:49 lee wrote: > > > > A kludge to fix this is to make resolv.conf immutable. Then > > NetworkManager or nothing else can interfere with it. > > > >

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread Zind
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:43:54AM +, Tony Molloy wrote: > On Saturday 10 November 2012 16:05:49 lee wrote: > > A kludge to fix this is to make resolv.conf immutable. Then > NetworkManager or nothing else can interfere with it. > > Set up /etc/resolv.conf as you want it. > > Then as root: >

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
lee wrote: >> As I understand it, you have asked NM to manage your ethernet connection >> (in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-em1). >> I believe that NM over-writes /etc/resolv.conf if it cannot establish >> the specified connection. >> In my opinion this is silly; but that is what NM does. >

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread jarmo
Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:27:22 +0100 lee kirjoitti: > Tim writes: > > > Tim: > >> > _EXACTLY_ how are you giving it the data? > > > > Lee: > >> I was using system-config-network and editing some files when it > >> didn't work. > > > > Well, unless things have changed, then you're fighting two things

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread lee
Tim writes: > Tim: >> > _EXACTLY_ how are you giving it the data? > > Lee: >> I was using system-config-network and editing some files when it didn't >> work. > > Well, unless things have changed, then you're fighting two things > against each other. > > System-config-network directly controls th

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread lee
Bruno Wolff III writes: > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:13:43 +0100, > lee wrote: >> >>How do you change that with system-config-network? I didn't see any >>checkbox for it in the interface I was presented with. > > I'm not surprised. I just edit the ifcfg files directly. Yes, that's much easie

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread lee
Timothy Murphy writes: > lee wrote: > >>> it is for the classical "network.service" and you should >>> NOT mix tools for different worlds in your usage >> >> It's not surprising that it doesn't work then. So how do you configure >> networkmanager? >> >> Whose extremely stupid idea was it to ha

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread lee
Tony Molloy writes: > On Saturday 10 November 2012 16:05:49 lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> apparently network manager continues to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf >> with incorrect data. Adjusting it with system-config-network >> doesn't help. >> >> I have: >> >> >> , >> >> | UUID="4881d1f8-79a5-

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:13:43 +0100, lee wrote: How do you change that with system-config-network? I didn't see any checkbox for it in the interface I was presented with. I'm not surprised. I just edit the ifcfg files directly. Networkmanager either uses something else or is very bugg

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
lee wrote: >> it is for the classical "network.service" and you should >> NOT mix tools for different worlds in your usage > > It's not surprising that it doesn't work then. So how do you configure > networkmanager? > > Whose extremely stupid idea was it to have two different and conflicting >

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread Tony Molloy
On Saturday 10 November 2012 16:05:49 lee wrote: > Hi, > > apparently network manager continues to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf > with incorrect data. Adjusting it with system-config-network > doesn't help. > > I have: > > > , > > | UUID="4881d1f8-79a5-46f3-a490-2464eebd89aa" > | NM_CONTR

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread Tim
Tim: > > _EXACTLY_ how are you giving it the data? Lee: > I was using system-config-network and editing some files when it didn't > work. Well, unless things have changed, then you're fighting two things against each other. System-config-network directly controls the network settings. NetworkMan

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread lee
Bruno Wolff III writes: > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:04:07 +0100, > lee wrote: >> >>No, I'm not using DHCP, and the cables are fine. I have a theory about >>what it might be, though. Is "system-config-network" related to >>networkmanager, or is it something else? > > Network manager does use

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-12 Thread lee
Reindl Harald writes: > Am 11.11.2012 01:04, schrieb lee: >> No, I'm not using DHCP, and the cables are fine. I have a theory about >> what it might be, though. Is "system-config-network" related to >> networkmanager, or is it something else? > > it is for the classical "network.service" and yo

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:04:07 +0100, lee wrote: No, I'm not using DHCP, and the cables are fine. I have a theory about what it might be, though. Is "system-config-network" related to networkmanager, or is it something else? Network manager does use the ifcfg files (unless they are flag

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.11.2012 01:04, schrieb lee: > No, I'm not using DHCP, and the cables are fine. I have a theory about > what it might be, though. Is "system-config-network" related to > networkmanager, or is it something else? it is for the classical "network.service" and you should NOT mix tools for dif

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-11 Thread lee
Timothy Murphy writes: > lee wrote: > Why is the network manager going crazy and doesn't stick with the information I'm giving it, and how do I fix this? Name resolution going down because /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten causes very annoying interruptions. >>> >>> Do y

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-11 Thread lee
Bruno Wolff III writes: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 20:07:23 +0100, > lee wrote: >>Bruno Wolff III writes: >> >>> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 17:05:49 +0100, >>> lee wrote: Why is the network manager going crazy and doesn't stick with the information I'm giving it, and how do I fix

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-11 Thread lee
Tim writes: > On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 17:05 +0100, lee wrote: >> apparently network manager continues to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf >> with incorrect data. Adjusting it with system-config-network doesn't >> help. >> >> ... and the copies of that file under the different names are all the >> same

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-11 Thread lee
Joe Zeff writes: > On 11/10/2012 11:10 AM, lee wrote: >> Joe Zeff writes: >> >>> On 11/10/2012 08:05 AM, lee wrote: I know I could disable network manager, but that isn't really a solution. I need it solved before I go to sleep, though. >>> >>> It's worked for me for over two years. >

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread Tim
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 17:05 +0100, lee wrote: > apparently network manager continues to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf > with incorrect data. Adjusting it with system-config-network doesn't > help. > > ... and the copies of that file under the different names are all the > same. After some time, /e

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
lee wrote: >>>Why is the network manager going crazy and doesn't stick with the >>>information I'm giving it, and how do I fix this? Name resolution going >>>down because /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten causes very >>>annoying interruptions. >> >> Do you have a wireless interface? Sett

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 20:07:23 +0100, lee wrote: Bruno Wolff III writes: On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 17:05:49 +0100, lee wrote: Why is the network manager going crazy and doesn't stick with the information I'm giving it, and how do I fix this? Name resolution going down because /etc/res

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/10/2012 11:10 AM, lee wrote: Joe Zeff writes: On 11/10/2012 08:05 AM, lee wrote: I know I could disable network manager, but that isn't really a solution. I need it solved before I go to sleep, though. It's worked for me for over two years. And it doesn't work here. The networkman

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread lee
Joe Zeff writes: > On 11/10/2012 08:05 AM, lee wrote: >> I know I could disable network manager, but that isn't really a >> solution. I need it solved before I go to sleep, though. > > It's worked for me for over two years. And it doesn't work here. The networkmanager keeps removing all entrie

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread lee
Bruno Wolff III writes: > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 17:05:49 +0100, > lee wrote: >> >>Why is the network manager going crazy and doesn't stick with the >>information I'm giving it, and how do I fix this? Name resolution going >>down because /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten causes very

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/10/2012 08:05 AM, lee wrote: I know I could disable network manager, but that isn't really a solution. I need it solved before I go to sleep, though. It's worked for me for over two years. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 17:05:49 +0100, lee wrote: Why is the network manager going crazy and doesn't stick with the information I'm giving it, and how do I fix this? Name resolution going down because /etc/resolv.conf keeps getting overwritten causes very annoying interruptions. Do you ha

network manager has gone crazy

2012-11-10 Thread lee
Hi, apparently network manager continues to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf with incorrect data. Adjusting it with system-config-network doesn't help. I have: , | UUID="4881d1f8-79a5-46f3-a490-2464eebd89aa" | NM_CONTROLLED=yes | ONBOOT=yes | TYPE=Ethernet | IPV6INIT=no | NAME="System em1" | HWA