Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > The original, too-widely formulated statement was: > > "... or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design." > It is just restating what FHS tries to convey that all user modified configuration should live

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-24 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Rahul Sundaram writes: > Hi > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > > > > > make menuconfig will modify a configuration file, placed below > > /usr. > > > That isn't a RPM package placing those configuration files however. So the > need to override it just

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > make menuconfig will modify a configuration file, placed below > /usr. That isn't a RPM package placing those configuration files however. So the need to override it just isn't there. > Similar for texlive, where you can

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-24 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Rahul Sundaram writes: > Hi > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > Instead of having to guess at the meaning, why not just state the > > intention without the absolutism? > I don't think anyone else was confused about what the meaning was. Neither am I. I

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > Instead of having to guess at the meaning, why not just state the > intention without the absolutism? I don't think anyone else was confused about what the meaning was. > And depending on the definition of > what a configurat

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-23 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Rahul Sundaram writes: > Hi > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > > > > The specific wording: "requires users to modify files below /usr". > > > > I am not sure picking up some words without the context is useful. If you > read the full email, it was obvious

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > The specific wording: "requires users to modify files below /usr". > I am not sure picking up some words without the context is useful. If you read the full email, it was obviously talking about configuration files. Rahul --

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Joe Zeff writes: > On 07/22/2014 12:26 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: > > Ralf Corsepius writes: > > > >> A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration > >> files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr > >> is broken by design. > > > > Both python a

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 07/22/2014 12:26 PM, Anders Wegge Keller wrote: Ralf Corsepius writes: A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is broken by design. Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their resp

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Anders Wegge Kelle wrote: > Ralf Corsepius writes: > > > A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration > > files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr > > is broken by design. > > Both python and perl come with me

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Anders Wegge Keller
Ralf Corsepius writes: > A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration > files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr > is broken by design. Both python and perl come with mechanisms to add their respective native packages under /usr/lib/... Do you c

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:03:39 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration > files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr > is broken by design. Agreed, but I don't seem to fully understand your point here. Are you sug

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Balint Szigeti
> A package, which does not provide a means to override configuration > files from below /etc, or requires users to modify files below /usr is > broken by design. pls don't start it. I could find anything else. The only reason I've found systemd because I worked with it nowadays. -- users

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 07/22/2014 02:42 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Whether this is FSH-compliant or not, I don't know. Some people say it is, some people say it is not, most of the people don't really care. :-) The difference is: Files outside of /etc are not supposed to modified by users or admins. I.e. shippin

Re: systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014 12:26:57 +0100 Balint Szigeti wrote: > Why doesn't system respect FSH? What is its benefit? [snip] > I think, the config files should store in /etc instead of everywhere > else. The chroot applications are exceptions. It cause we MUST > mount /usr in / (root) partion. The _Ne

systemd config files???

2014-07-22 Thread Balint Szigeti
Why doesn't system respect FSH? What is its benefit? Cite man 7 hier .. /usr/lib Object libraries, including dynamic libraries, plus some executables which usually are not invoked directly. More complicated pro‐ grams may have whole subdirectories there.