Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-23 Thread Martin Stein
Hi John, A quick 'find . -name *.xsd*' reveals: ./base/xsd/base_types.xsd ./libports/src/app/sntp_client/config.xsd ./os/src/init/config.xsd ./os/src/server/nic_dump/config.xsd ./os/src/server/nic_router/config.xsd ./os/src/server/nic_bridge/config.xsd ./os/src/app/trace_logger/config.xsd ./os/sr

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-22 Thread John J. Karcher
On 1/17/20 7:31 AM, Norman Feske wrote: In fact, the topic of an IDE for Genode development pops up again and again. But since everyone at Genode Labs uses plain Unix+Vim as development environment, we are unable to give a satisfactory answer. We wish there was a compelling solution but we have

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-22 Thread John J. Karcher
On 1/17/20 7:48 AM, Norman Feske wrote: Hi Cedrik, Genode's philosophy seems to be "don't deny complexity, but organize it". So it would be an interesting challenge: would implementing workspaces entail big changes in nitpicker? in wm? How to reconcile the need for a low number of source- cod

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-20 Thread Norman Feske
Dear Genode community, today I have condensed our discussion into Genode's official road map for 2020: https://genode.org/about/road-map Thanks to everyone of you who participated. I hope that you find your ideas and concerns well reflected. Cheers Norman -- Dr.-Ing. Norman Feske Genode Lab

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-17 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Cedrik, > Genode's philosophy seems to be "don't deny complexity, but organize it". So > it would be an interesting challenge: would > implementing workspaces entail big changes in nitpicker? in wm? How to > reconcile the need for a low number of source- > code lines, with the need for addit

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-17 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Tomasz, thank you for sharing your perspective on the project and your plans. The Rpi topic is indeed a huge project. While following your conversations with Stefan on the issue tracker from the side lines, I admire your perseverance with dealing with this rabbit hole. Your vision to bring Scu

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-17 Thread Alexander Tormasov via users
> > I also would love to have an IDE (whether Eclipse or a lighter alternative), > and I agree that it could help attract more casual developers. I successfully use VSCode from Microsoft as ide for Genode build and debugging I have 2 Parallels virtual machines on my Mac as a host where I use vs

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-16 Thread John J. Karcher
On 1/13/20 7:24 PM, Tomasz Gajewski wrote: Hello everyone, I hesitated to write about my plans for 2020 as in the previous year I did not succeed with my goals regarding Genode and Raspberry Pi. It was mostly due to underestimating the amount of required work and maybe more important due to di

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-15 Thread ttcoder
Message d'origine > De : Stefan Kalkowski > * A more sophisticated window-manager incarnation for Sculpt > > I use several virtual-machines aside, as well as noux shell, > pdf-viewer, battery-applet, and top-view. At last, it became > unmanageable to use all these windows overlapping ea

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-13 Thread Tomasz Gajewski
Hello everyone, I hesitated to write about my plans for 2020 as in the previous year I did not succeed with my goals regarding Genode and Raspberry Pi. It was mostly due to underestimating the amount of required work and maybe more important due to different personal issues that limited amount o

Re: Sculpt on base-hw (was: Re: Roadmap 2020)

2020-01-10 Thread Stefan Kalkowski
Hi John, On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 03:55:52PM -0500, John J. Karcher wrote: > This is more of a curiosity question than a request, but what is the status > of Sculpt running on base-hw? A few months ago I tried it, and it seemed to > work, but ran very slowly. > > Is this a near-term goal? (I tho

Sculpt on base-hw (was: Re: Roadmap 2020)

2020-01-09 Thread John J. Karcher
This is more of a curiosity question than a request, but what is the status of Sculpt running on base-hw? A few months ago I tried it, and it seemed to work, but ran very slowly. Is this a near-term goal? (I thought it was on the roadmap in the past, but I can't find it.) Thanks! John

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-08 Thread John J. Karcher
On 1/6/20 10:36 AM, Norman Feske wrote: Hi John, And just for curiosity, can you share any info on your Sculpt UI ideas, especially "Replacing Unix/Vim-based interface of the Leitzentrale with a graphical user interface"? Good call. Please find my collection of thoughts here: https://geno

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-08 Thread Stefan Kalkowski
Hello Roman, thank you for sharing your view and needs with us. I want to respond to some of the addressed points in the following. On Tue, Jan 07, 2020 at 04:40:57PM +0100, Roman Iten wrote: > Hello Genodians, > > 2019 has again been a great year to work with, at and around this > fabulous proj

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-07 Thread Roman Iten
Hello Genodians, 2019 has again been a great year to work with, at and around this fabulous project and unique community. As always, we at gapfruit are impressed with the improvements: some expected and some unexpected but not less delightful. I'd also like to share some ideas from our point of v

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-06 Thread Christian Helmuth
Hey Martin, On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 16:19:35 CET, Martin Stein wrote: > * Also, the NIC router has reached a state that makes me believe that a > review of the internal design would be useful. This bullet point is quite aligned with my interests for the year, so I'd like to bump its priority. I u

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-06 Thread Josef Söntgen
Hello everyone, in 2019 I mostly focused on one project in particular and did not much else besides that. That lead to stalling on some of my pet projects. So for 2020 I plan on picking these up again (if time permits): * Enabling USB Audio Class1/2 support (since having the dde_bsd sources

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-06 Thread Norman Feske
Hi John, > In the context of #1: > > - I don't know if others feel the same way, but I would feel more > comfortable with a journaling file system (e.g., ext4) for important > data.  (I have no idea how big of a task this is) you are certainly not alone. I'm wary to put it on the road map though

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-06 Thread Martin Stein
Hey Norman, Thanks for the annual poke! For 2020 these are my interests: * Provide a Genode kernel that is written entirely in Ada/SPARK, i.e., try to eliminate the use of base-hw code (C++) in the Spunky kernel that I started last year. Spunky currently aims only for the basic kernel features (

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-06 Thread Martin Stein
Hey John, El 4/1/20 a las 3:27, John J. Karcher escribió: > I meant to ask about the Genode Community Summer at the time - I'm glad > to hear that it was a success!  Did anyone write anything about it > (e.g., how many people participated, etc.)? AFAIK, no one wrote a resumé of the community summ

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-03 Thread John J. Karcher
On 1/3/20 4:09 AM, Christian Helmuth wrote: Hello Genodians, looking back at 2019, I see quite a few achievements, some matching our planned goals laid out on the road map and some more motivated by needs of Genode users and customers of Genode Labs. I'd like to thank all guys from Genode Labs a

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-03 Thread John J. Karcher
Looking back at your summary of 2019, it has been a great year! I don't know how you guys accomplish so much in so many different areas. Congratulations and thanks to everyone on the Genode team! I think your plans are right on target, and have enjoyed reading everyone else's ideas also. I'm

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-03 Thread Alexander Boettcher
Hello Genodians, looking back at 2019, I have quite mixed feelings about it. Starting with the x86 VM interface harmonization on Genode via several kernels in the beginning, the work switched straight into the world of ARMv8 virtualization through all levels together with Stefan Kalkowski. Technic

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-03 Thread Christian Prochaska
Hello, my biggest plan for 2020 is porting QtWebEngine and a more modern web browser to Genode, since both the Arora web browser and QtWebKit are outdated by now. Christian ___ Genode users mailing list users@lists.genode.org https://lists.genode.org

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-03 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Dave, >      Being a visual thinker I am drawn to the concept embodied in > Eaglemode. I do not know how or how well the software is excecuted, but > for me at least being able to to see the structure 'from above' is > appealing. As far as being keyboard friendly I can't say, but the idea > of

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-03 Thread Norman Feske
Hello Cedric, thank you for sharing your reflections on the project and your plans! > Regarding the former, I'm happy to have reached a stage where we have a > "vertical slice" of CC6 running on Genode. And > since early Q3 2019 it is now in "maintenance" mode, i.e. whenever I make > changes t

Re: Roadmap 2020 - Nix/Genode

2020-01-03 Thread Norman Feske
Hi Emery, it's interesting to see the direction you are taking. > My 2020 project will be building a NixOS-like OS around Genode OS. Its > something I tried a few years ago but never completed, but now I am > resolved that it is the best way to scale up Genode. Since I'm not a NixOS user, I admi

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-03 Thread Christian Helmuth
Hey Ben, On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 17:08:45 CET, Nobody III wrote: > Aside from that, with the recent changes to libc, has QProcess been enabled > in Qt5? Because that's perhaps the biggest remaining issue in porting > existing Qt software, AFAIK nobody looked into this over the last year but as QP

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-03 Thread Christian Helmuth
Hello Genodians, looking back at 2019, I see quite a few achievements, some matching our planned goals laid out on the road map and some more motivated by needs of Genode users and customers of Genode Labs. I'd like to thank all guys from Genode Labs and external contributors alike for an eventful

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-01 Thread Dave Springer via users
Hi Norman,      I should start out by saying that my software skills are quite limited compared to yours. My laptop just broke so until I can get another up and running I'm limited to my phone. It difficult to type so please excuse the errors.      I have been following this project because I t

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-01 Thread Dave Springer via users
Hi,      I'm just an outside observer with no skin in the game and no affiliation with any project or product, but I am a Linux user and I am looking at this window/file manager: http:eaglemode.sourceforge.net www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6yPKQt3mBA Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jan 1

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-01 Thread Dave Springer via users
Correction: http://eaglemode.sourceforge.net/ Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 12:32 PM, Dave Springer wrote: Hi,      I'm just an outside observer with no skin in the game and no affiliation with any project or product, but I am a Linux user and I am looking at this

Re: Roadmap 2020

2020-01-01 Thread Stefan Kalkowski
Hello & a happy new year to all of you, my personal interests list to Genode's 2020 roadmap is: * A more sophisticated window-manager incarnation for Sculpt I use several virtual-machines aside, as well as noux shell, pdf-viewer, battery-applet, and top-view. At last, it became unmanageable to u

Re: Roadmap 2020

2019-12-29 Thread ttcoder
Responding in terms of "use cases", I would list the following two, as use-cases of interest to me: 1) making my radio station software cross-platform, to also run on a Genode-based system (not necessarily a full fledged OS, just framebuffer + nit picker + audio_drv to start with) 2) transfe

Re: Roadmap 2020 - Nix/Genode

2019-12-29 Thread Emery Hemingway
Hello Genodians, My 2020 project will be building a NixOS-like OS around Genode OS. Its something I tried a few years ago but never completed, but now I am resolved that it is the best way to scale up Genode. I can't do it alone, so if such a project interests you, please contact me off-list. Th

Re: Roadmap 2020

2019-12-28 Thread Nobody III
A simple improvement that I would love to see in leitzentrale is the ability to create launchers from the GUI. Aside from that, with the recent changes to libc, has QProcess been enabled in Qt5? Because that's perhaps the biggest remaining issue in porting existing Qt software, if the new SDK solv

Roadmap 2020

2019-12-27 Thread Norman Feske
Dear Genode community, the year 2020 is approaching, which prompts me to kick off the discussion of our road map for the year to come. Before drafting plans, however, I'd like to share my personal reflections of the past 12 months. For the road map 2019, we picked "bridging worlds" as our guiding