[Pw_forum] PWscf and highly parallel machines

2007-02-15 Thread Paolo Giannozzi
On Feb 15, 2007, at 16:37 , Nichols A. Romero wrote: > There are two ways to solve for the KS ground state. > 1. Direct minimization of KS functional > 2. Self-consistently solving the KS eqn. > > The conjugate-gradient (cg) in PWSCF and CP are not doing > different things same thing. let me say

[Pw_forum] PWscf and highly parallel machines

2007-02-15 Thread Nichols A. Romero
Didn't even realize what I had typed. That is what happens when you are running from one place to the next :^) Thanks to Paolo for explaining things more eloquently. On 2/15/07, Paolo Giannozzi wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 2007, at 16:37 , Nichols A. Romero wrote: > > > There are two ways to solve

[Pw_forum] PWscf and highly parallel machines

2007-02-15 Thread Nichols A. Romero
Nicola et al., I am attempting to setup such a test under controlled conditions. It would be helpful to clarify a point, because we want to avoid comparing apples with oranges. There are two ways to solve for the KS ground state. 1. Direct minimization of KS functional 2. Self-consistently

[Pw_forum] PWscf and highly parallel machines

2007-02-15 Thread Nicola Marzari
Paolo Umari has also implemented a conjugate gradients minimization in CP. so, for a CP calculation, in which the only thing you need is the electronic ground state of a given structure, this would be the best strategy - our few tests were that it was 3-4 times more effective than damped

[Pw_forum] PWscf and highly parallel machines

2007-02-15 Thread Paolo Giannozzi
On Feb 14, 2007, at 18:48 , Nichols A. Romero wrote: > If one were to use CP across such a large number of processors, > what algorithm is your best bet for minimizing your electronic d.o.f., > sd or cg steepest descent is very inefficient and should be used only for the initial steps of a

[Pw_forum] PWscf and highly parallel machines

2007-02-14 Thread Paolo Giannozzi
On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:39 , Alain Allouche wrote: > I wonder if somebody have the experience of PW codes > running on highly parallel machines like in those of the DEISA > supercomputing grid, are the codes like pw.x supporting > such an environment ? they have to, since I am involved in a DEISA

[Pw_forum] PWscf and highly parallel machines

2007-02-14 Thread Nichols A. Romero
If one were to use CP across such a large number of processors, what algorithm is your best bet for minimizing your electronic d.o.f., sd or cg On 2/14/07, Paolo Giannozzi wrote: > > On Feb 14, 2007, at 10:39 , Alain Allouche wrote: > > > I wonder if somebody have the experience of PW codes > >

[Pw_forum] PWscf and highly parallel machines

2007-02-14 Thread Alain Allouche
I wonder if somebody have the experience of PW codes running on highly parallel machines like in those of the DEISA supercomputing grid, are the codes like pw.x supporting such an environment ? Thanks a lot