Re: [Scilab-users] Model ID of First order delay and Dead Time Process

2016-03-12 Thread Tim Wescott
If you're going to be doing this often it may be profitable to get a book on system identification. I can't be sure because I haven't had to do it, but I'm pretty sure that system identification with time delay is an indirect enough process that there will be multiple ways to do it, each one being

Re: [Scilab-users] Model ID of First order delay and Dead Time Process

2016-03-12 Thread noguchi
Dear Mr.Serge, Thank you for your advise. I didn't know that step should start from the beginning. If there is a scilab tool to identify transport delay and continuous time transfer functions (Fist order delay, scond order delay, integral), it would be nice. Thanks. Y. Noguchi -- View t

Re: [Scilab-users] Model ID of First order delay and Dead Time Process

2016-03-12 Thread Serge Steer
You made a mistake because the response you compute with rep=flts(u,tf2ss(h)); k=find(rep<>0,1) is not exactly a step response because the step does not occur at the first sample If you use H=time_id(10,u,rep) to identify the response you vill got a batter result An other an probably better so

Re: [Scilab-users] Model ID of First order delay and Dead Time Process

2016-03-11 Thread noguchi
Dear Mr.Serge, Thank you for your advise. I tried to use time_ID. Please look at the following Scinote: z=poly(0,'z'); h=(0.07/(z-0.934))*(1/z^10) u=zeros(1,100); for i=6:1:100 u(1,i)=1; end t=1:1:100; rep=flts(u,tf2ss(h)); plot(t,rep,t,u) H=time_id(10,'step',rep) rep=flts(u,tf2ss(H));

Re: [Scilab-users] Model ID of First order delay and Dead Time Process

2016-03-10 Thread Serge Steer
Le 10/03/2016 14:42, noguchi a écrit : Dear Mr.Serge, Thank you for your information. It works. Thanks. May I have your advise on my question No.2 also? 2. Model ID I would like to identify first or second order transfer function + dead time from step test data (SISO). for dead time, it is q

Re: [Scilab-users] Model ID of First order delay and Dead Time Process

2016-03-10 Thread noguchi
Dear Mr.Serge, Thank you for your information. It works. Thanks. May I have your advise on my question No.2 also? 2. Model ID I would like to identify first or second order transfer function + dead time from step test data (SISO). Can we use subid and ss2tf? I tf2ss command doesn't work fo

Re: [Scilab-users] Model ID of First order delay and Dead Time Process

2016-03-09 Thread Serge Steer
Give a look to the io delay atoms module it may correspond to your whish. Serge Steer Le 09/03/2016 16:12, noguchi a écrit : Hello, May I ask your help? 1. How can I specify time delay for my transfer function in scilab. I found it in matlab, but I failed to find it in SCilab. 2. Model ID I

[Scilab-users] Model ID of First order delay and Dead Time Process

2016-03-09 Thread noguchi
Hello, May I ask your help? 1. How can I specify time delay for my transfer function in scilab. I found it in matlab, but I failed to find it in SCilab. 2. Model ID I would like to identify first or second order transfer function + dead time from step test data (SISO). If it is required to ide