Re: Making the case for Maven to managment

2008-08-23 Thread Alex
Hi Josh, I'm starting migrating some projects to maven and personally I think that maven is the way to go because of three things (the 3 selling arguments I've used at work ;-) : 1. we can locate a project or a project module (an artifact in maven terminology) in space and time, i.e. we spec

Re: Making the case for Maven to managment

2008-08-22 Thread Mark H. Wood
Nah, we can drop "ideology" in the bitbucket. It's a matter of using the tool that best does the job. Maven is really good at representing the structure of large, complex projects simply, and pretty good at organizing the large-scale flow of operations involved in realizing them. Ant is rather g

Re: Making the case for Maven to managment

2008-08-22 Thread Geoffrey Wiseman
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Josh Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do I make this case in the face of so hostile a mentality? Have you > ever > had to make the case? Any insight on how to move forward would be > appreciated. > Well: you believe it'll solve some problems for you. Look at

Re: Making the case for Maven to managment

2008-08-22 Thread Piotr Oktaba
Hi, There is maven-ant-plugin which allows you to do everything which you can do in ant. However, you shouldn't use it too much because it is inconsistent with maven ideology :). Cheers, Piotr Oktaba On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 14:25 +0200, Paulo Pinto wrote: > Hi, > > having survived an Ant->Maven

Re: Making the case for Maven to managment

2008-08-22 Thread Paulo Pinto
Hi, having survived an Ant->Maven migration process, I would advise you to really be sure that Maven supports out of the box all the things you are already doing with Ant. Otherwise you might get some nasty surprises, that would fragile your position. Maven is a nice tool, but if it does not sup

Making the case for Maven to managment

2008-08-22 Thread Josh Long
Hi everyone, I'm trying to make a case for Maven and I'm going to need to provide a better reason than "it's better than a kick in the face!" to managment. I'm at a bank, so everything is subject to heavy scrutiny. Essentially, our project hardly compiles and is so untestable that upon check out n