Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-03-04 Thread Martin Marinschek
Yeah, it took a while to get Trinidad out of incubation, but I think that good stuff needs time to mature. The Apache folks take good care that no rubbish appears on their website and that all projects are with a healthy community driving them. Frankly - I am quite thankful for this. *

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-03-04 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
* Oracle employees still do most of the work but you have seen a flow of commits/patches coming in from other yes; that happens, right! We recently voted in another commiter (outside of Oracle) people as well, if not, we should not have moved Trinidad out of the incubator. I doubt

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-03-01 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Stephen Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Millman wrote: The quality of Trinidad it a testament to how Open Source communities work best. Well, ... I don't

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-29 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi, On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Frank Nimphius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Samba, there are plans to open source ADF Faces RC as well, as announced during JavaOne 2007. I don't know where this will be open sourced. Since it is different from Trinidad, I think its more likely that it

RE: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-29 Thread Mark Millman
it a testament to how Open Source communities work best. Thanks, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.mizar.com | (360) 945-2643 From: Frank Nimphius [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 12:13 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad Mark, Oracle's

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-29 Thread Scott O'Bryan
How do you know the next drop won't be dubbed Trinidad 2.0? It's certainly built off the Trinidad framework and the tag libraries are virtually identical. Scott Stephen Friedrich wrote: Mark Millman wrote: The quality of Trinidad it a testament to how Open Source communities work best.

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-29 Thread Andrew Robinson
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Stephen Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Millman wrote: The quality of Trinidad it a testament to how Open Source communities work best. Well, ... I don't really agree, but maybe I am not involved deeply enough in the community to judge.

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-28 Thread Samba
Hi! Frank, is there any plan to donate the new ADF Faces RC to Trinidad any time in the future? If yes, then that will be great day for Open Source java ... Anyway, I feel Customers don't use Oracle just for ADF Faces, they go for the better part of it-- ADF BC, ADF Bindings which improve

Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-27 Thread Aaron Santiago Dulce
Greetings to everyone, We are starting to develop our web applications with ADF Faces, but we want to know if the apache 2.0 license apply to ADF Faces or we need to switch to Trinidad. Also, if we are working with JDeveloper, if as simply as changing the lib's to the Trinidad. Thanks a

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-27 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Trinidad is the Apache 2.0 licensed stuff. ADF Faces is licensed by Oracle. in jdev 10g there are some issues, when you are trying to use Trinidad with things like ADFm. in jdev 11g trinidad will be used for ADF Faces 10g migrations, so next to ADF Faces Rich Client, Trinidad is supported in

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-27 Thread Frank Nimphius
In addition .. using Trinidad without ADF works in JDeveloper 10g as well. If you use your own model binding then accessing ADF BC also becomes possible Frank Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Trinidad is the Apache 2.0 licensed stuff. ADF Faces is licensed by Oracle. in jdev 10g there are

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-27 Thread Frank Nimphius
No, ADF Faces doesn't force you to licence OracleAs. The opposite is true. If you have an OracleAs licence then there is no ADF Faces licence fee to pay Frank Simon Lessard wrote: Hello Aaron Another addition. If you use ADF Faces, I think Oracle license forces you to use OracleAS so

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-27 Thread Simon Lessard
Ah, I see the subtlety, but it still mean that you have to pay for ADF Faces if you don't use it within OracleAS right? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Frank Nimphius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, ADF Faces doesn't force you to licence OracleAs. The opposite is true. If you have an OracleAs

Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-27 Thread Frank Nimphius
Simon, yes. This is true - we can't beat the "free" in Trinidad ;-) Frank Simon Lessard wrote: Ah, I see the subtlety, but it still mean that you have to pay for ADF Faces if you don't use it within OracleAS right? On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Frank Nimphius [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad

2008-02-27 Thread Mark Millman
27, 2008 8:01 AM To: MyFaces Discussion Subject: Re: Doubt about ADF Faces Trinidad Simon, yes. This is true - we can't beat the free in Trinidad ;-) Frank Simon Lessard wrote: Ah, I see the subtlety, but it still mean that you have to pay for ADF Faces if you don't use it within OracleAS