Orchestra Question / another solution?

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Dames
Hey all, I saw yesterday the following solution for using spring app context for managing beans in jsf: http://cagataycivici.wordpress.com/2007/09/10/using-spring-to-manage- jsf-beans/ So this is the same solution as orchestra offers, right? Where are the benefits of using an extra lib

Spring WebFlow and Orchestra (was Re: Orchestra Question / another solution?)

2007-09-28 Thread Simon Kitching
The WebFlow docs state that persistence management is one of the major features of the most recent release (WebFlow Milestone 1): http://www.springframework.org/node/510 See the section: Web Flow 2.0 M1 New and Noteworthy It's good to head that you're familiar with WebFlow; I have been

Re: Orchestra Question / another solution?

2007-09-28 Thread Simon Kitching
See here for information about conversations: http://myfaces.apache.org/orchestra/myfaces-orchestra-core/conversation.html If all you want is Spring DI and AOP for your beans, then you don't need Orchestra. However Spring core doesn't give you conversation scopes by default. Copnversation

Re: Orchestra Question / another solution?

2007-09-28 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! So, the question is now... what are the benefit of the conversation scope? and what is it exactly? There is not need to use Orchestra just do declare beans in spring. This is something spring provides out of the box. The conversation scope is a scope between request and session. Means - you

Re: Orchestra Question / another solution?

2007-09-28 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi Martin, Cagatay's blog is about using Spring's bean facility to *declare* Managed Beans. No need for a declaration of your managed beans inside the faces-config.xml file. Orchestra is about providing a conversion (wizard) scope, that is between request and session. See the Orchestra docs

Re: Orchestra Question / another solution?

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Dames
Hey Matthias, hmm... I don't understand the conversation (dialog, wizard) scope exactly. Is this a pretty common scope or an orchestra own name? As the hightlights says: It utilizes the powerful Spring bean configuration mechanism instead of JSF's managed-bean facility. The release of

Re: Orchestra Question / another solution?

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Marinschek
I wouldn't call spring-webflow too complicated in comparison to Orchestra - but what you can't do with spring-webflow is to handle the underlying JPA-persistence context out of the box, you can do that with Orchestra. regards, Martin On 9/28/07, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See here

Re: Orchestra Question / another solution?

2007-09-28 Thread Martin Dames
Hey, thank you guys. That helped a lot. Actually I missed that explanation on your page. You could make a link on the front page under each conversation word. That would help! :-) So now I have an idea what is it all about. Thank you. I'll dive into that deeper later when I am coming to