Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Jozef Hribik
Hi Aleksei, Wake up, stop dreaming and open your eyes. 1. Everything from Oracle is priced like 5k per CPU; they have pulled our legs in last 10 months. 2. Oracle will never extend MyFaces component palette; they just test their components with MyFaces runtime. 3. ADF Faces are still not

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Martin Marinschek
Well, let's see what the future brings. In the meantime, let's keep enjoying that there is a thing like Open Source! regards, Martin On 7/19/05, Jozef Hribik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Aleksei, Wake up, stop dreaming and open your eyes. 1. Everything from Oracle is priced like 5k per

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Werner Punz
Jozef Hribik wrote: Hi Aleksei, Wake up, stop dreaming and open your eyes. 1. Everything from Oracle is priced like 5k per CPU; they have pulled our legs in last 10 months. Oracle is expensive, yes but they have their market and make no secret about it. There are many szenarios, where I

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Jozef Hribik
Yes, I am a big critic to Oracle ADF Faces. I have waste my time with EA-10, EA-13 and EA-15. My posts are WARNINGs to all people new to ADF-Faces. Werner Punz wrote: Jozef Hribik wrote: Hi Aleksei, Wake up, stop dreaming and open your eyes. 1. Everything from Oracle is priced like 5k per

RE: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Jesse Alexander (KBSA 21)
-Original Message- 2. Oracle will never extend MyFaces component palette; they just test their components with MyFaces runtime. -/Original Message- Check the messages in this mailing lists history very carefully. Particularily I mean the second message of Jonas Jacobi:

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Jonas Jacobi
Hi All, Thanks Jesse! As mentioned earlier in this thread Oracle is a big company and, no secret, moves slowly. Jozef, I'm very sorry that you feel that way about ADF Faces. It would be very interesting to know specific details about what is not working and what issues you have been

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Jozef Hribik
Hi Jonas, Ok, my flashback on EA-15: The customer wanted to see some demo-screens of the proposed JSF solution. The boss said, take a best-looking JSF-components and make the demo in 1 day. ADF-Faces was the choice. We were able to code some simple data-list with paging and search function,

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Jonas Jacobi
Hi Jozef, There is no need to be rude. First, skinning was not implemented in EA15, which explains why that was not working. A quick check in the release notes for EA15: Coming features Our main planned tasks for upcoming releases are:     * Finishing the component set     * Look-and-feel

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Jonas Jacobi
Hi Aleksei, That is the plan. We still need to work out some details with the MyFaces dev team before this work can start. - Jonas Aleksei Valikov wrote: Hi. ADF Faces releases We release every 4-6 weeks a build of ADF Faces that is stable enough to be used internally for

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-19 Thread Aleksei Valikov
Hi. Jonas, is there a chance that some/any of the ADF components will be contributed to the MyFaces palette? That is the plan. We still need to work out some details with the MyFaces dev team before this work can start. I would say, great news. Looking forward! Bye. /lexi

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-18 Thread Aleksei Valikov
Hi. Forgot to add the following comment: 3. Note that we are planning and working with the MyFaces development team, to contribute our components to the MyFaces project. There are still things that need to be solved, so for now the above statement about pricing is what is officially

RE: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-18 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
My group has prototyped ADF and MyFaces separately, but not together. My understanding is that the ADF components are currently pre-release code. I also have heard that Oracle recently became a core contributor to MyFaces. - Brendan -Original Message- From: Aleksei Valikov

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-18 Thread Jonas Jacobi
Hi Aleksei, 1. Yes, ADF Faces work with MyFaces. There is a how to available on OTN 2. We announced the new pricing strategy for JDeveloper and Oracle ADF at JavaOne. JDeveloper is free and Oracle ADF (which includes ADF Faces) comes with the Oracle AS license for free. If your customer is

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-18 Thread Jonas Jacobi
Sorry, I replied to this thread already about the pricing, but never completed my comments. >From my previous email: 1. Yes, ADF Faces work with MyFaces. There is a how to available on OTN 2. We announced the new pricing strategy for JDeveloper and Oracle ADF at JavaOne. JDeveloper is free

Re: Oracle ADF JSF

2005-07-18 Thread Aleksei Valikov
Hi. Thank you for the answers! 1. Yes, ADF Faces work with MyFaces. There is a how to available on OTN Yes, I've seen the howto. The question was mainly about practical usage in a real-life project. 2. We announced the new pricing strategy for JDeveloper and Oracle ADF at JavaOne.