I was inspired from reading JavaFX for NetBeans GUI that I’ve started to build bits and pieces of a prototype for this. Finding myself unemployed again (something that’s really getting me down), I have plenty of time to think about this stuff and get my mind off my crumbling reality.
--- Thomas J. Clancy, http://philosophicus.blogspot.com <http://philosophicus.blogspot.com/> To this day, many C programmers believe that "strong typing" just means pounding extra hard on the keyboard. - Peter van der Linden, Expert C Programming > On Aug 21, 2018, at 10:38 AM, Mithat Karaoglu <mithat.karao...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Quote from Chuck Davis's email: > "...Combine a Java desktop app with a good server, EJB, JDBC and a good > datastore -- good business environment. ..." > > I strongly agree, this is exactly what we are doing in our company. We have > Windows, Linux and MAC desktops One large same desktop application runs on > all clients, connects to TomEE, MySQL running on a Linux server. > > ========= > Mithat Karaoglu > Email: mithat.karao...@gmail.com <mailto:mithat.karao...@gmail.com> > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Geertjan Wielenga > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid > <mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid>> wrote: > The Java desktop hasn't really found a place in software for small and medium > businesses -- probably because .NET is so dominant in that space. However, > that does not mean that the Java desktop has failed, since there's a LOT more > in the software world than software for small and medium business. How about, > for example, large business or let's say industrial business, e.g., > scientific data modeling (in banks, aerospace, etc) -- that's where there's > more Java desktop software. The Java desktop, again, is not so common for the > consumer marker, but all the more so for large back office systems. > > Gj > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Miroslav Nachev > <mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com <mailto:mnachev.nscenter...@gmail.com>> wrote: > In support of what Chuck Davis said, I would like to say that more than 90% > of the software for small and medium businesses in Bulgaria is made on > Microsoft .NET and MS SQL Server Express. > For example, accounting and payroll software for micro and small businesses > is primarily on .NET, where the Web is not used. > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Chuck Davis <cjgun...@gmail.com > <mailto:cjgun...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Microsoft doesn't create the desktop apps. They created a rich environment > for businesses to create the apps. Can you say Intuit (their on-line version > is not a big hit from what I've heard)? Nearly all accounting packages are > built for Windows only. Nearly everything used in businesses is built for > Windows only. I work currently in agriculture. Our packing houses (and Ag > is a huge industry) are run by software only available on Windows desktops -- > certainly not browsers. > > Small businesses are not flocking to browser interfaces to get their real > work done. > > If one looks only at Microsoft apps (and there are currently good > alternatives to those) he misses the big picture. It's the rich development > environment they have provided that allows businesses to create the apps we > need to run our businesses -- unfortunately on Windows only. Java is the > only viable alternative. > > I don't belong to the crowd who thinks Swing has been a failure. It's been > wonderful in my experience (thanks in large part to NB). But I've become > quite taken with FX as well (developed nicely with NB) -- for me it's been a > great journey to become proficient with it. It's still got serious warts I > hope get fixed soon but it's a great start. If FX falters I'll revert to > Swing in a heartbeat. Desktop development, in my opinion, doesn't get any > better than Java. Combine a Java desktop app with a good server, EJB, JDBC > and a good datastore -- good business environment. > > What mobile has done is teach people that for a good user experience you need > to download an app -- not a browser. > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 1:29 AM Emilian Bold <emilian.b...@protonmail.ch > <mailto:emilian.b...@protonmail.ch>> wrote: > What new desktop apps did Microsoft release in the past years? > > They have a monopoly on office productivity apps (Word / Excel) but what > other desktop software products are these 'small businesses' buying? > > Small businesses may be the biggest employer but they are not the biggest > software (desktop) developer employers. > > The data just doesn't show this: where are the successful products, the > companies catering to small business, the jobs? > > --emi > > > >
