[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-04 Thread Derek Atkins
Hmm. So if Gluster is being deprecated, what is it being replaced with? Also, Nir did ask if this also applies to ovirt -- would be interesting to see the response to that question. -derek On Fri, February 4, 2022 10:05 am, Thomas Hoberg wrote: > I just read this message: > https://bugzilla.redhat

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-04 Thread Thomas Hoberg
With Gluster gone, you could still use SAN and NFS storage, just like before they tried to compete with Nutanix and vSphere. Can you imagine IBM sponsoring oVirt, which doesn't make any money without RHV, which evidently isn't profitable enough? Most likely oVirt will lead RHV, in this case to

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-04 Thread Leo David
Maybe its a perfect time to add ( again ) Ceph into discution. Leo On Fri, Feb 4, 2022, 18:21 Thomas Hoberg wrote: > With Gluster gone, you could still use SAN and NFS storage, just like > before they tried to compete with Nutanix and vSphere. > > Can you imagine IBM sponsoring oVirt, which do

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-04 Thread Dori Seliškar via Users
Hi all, or maybe https://linbit.com/linstor/  ? We too are in dilemma what to do with our RHV/oVirt production environment. I have small 6 node HCI installation in my lab with linstor and so far I'm impressed. If oVirt had support for linstor we would certainly continue to use oVirt (even aft

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-04 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
RHV & RHGS might be abandoned, but this doesn't mean that oVirt & Gluster should stop existing just because a corporation doesn't see HugePiles of $ in them. Removing Gluster support from oVirt, just because RHGS support is close to end, is irrelevant. After all, oVirt never had support in the f

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-04 Thread Dori Seliškar via Users
I don't want to be anybody's  advocate here. And I also found DRBD alone too cumbersome to use in this role in the past, but linstor actually makes it very easy to use. In search for HCI storage solution I was convinced by following press release ( https://linbit.com/blog/iops-world-record-brok

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-04 Thread Sketch
On Fri, 4 Feb 2022, Leo David wrote: Maybe its a perfect time to add ( again ) Ceph into discution. Ceph already works pretty well in 4.4 in general. It would be nice if the hosted engine supported ceph directly, but you can currently use an iSCSI or NFS export from ceph to host it. Perso

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-05 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
My idea is that Gluster is there and is in use and it should not be removed just because the downstream is closing to EOL. A simple warning on the website is enough. Best Regards, Strahil Nikolov В петък, 4 февруари 2022 г., 22:11:45 Гринуич+2, Dori Seliškar via Users написа: I don

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-05 Thread Thomas Hoberg
Please have a look here: https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhev/ Without a commercial product to pay the vast majority of the developers, there is just no chance oVirt can survive (unless you're ready to take over). RHV 4.4 full support ends this August and that very likely means

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-05 Thread Nathanaël Blanchet
Can anybody from redhat confirm what is supposed here, all my staff depends on the future of ovirt. How can we help to maintain this project alive if redhat dev are not implicated anymore? I may donate some hardware or is it unuseful? Le 5 févr. 2022 11:31, Thomas Hoberg a écrit : Please have a

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-05 Thread Sketch
Interesting, I hadn't read about the planned migration from RHV to OpenShift. Based on what I've read here, it seems like 4.5 development is well underway, so I doubt 4.4 will be the last release of oVirt. That would mean August is probably not the end of the line. However, the removal of gl

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-05 Thread Dan Yasny
I've not been part of the ovirt project for 9 years now and have left red hat in 2018, so this isn't insider talk, just pure speculation. However... KubeVirt has been making a splash in the current height-of-fashion platform kubernetes and by extension in openshift. To me it only makes a lot of se

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-06 Thread Thomas Hoberg
I just hit across the fact that XOSAN (the "native" HCI solution for XCP-ng) is in fact LinStor... That's what's behind the €6000/year support fee, but there is a beta that's community and that I'll try fow now. ___ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.or

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-06 Thread Thomas Hoberg
Alas, Ceph seems to take up an entire brain and mine regularly overflows just looking at their home page. ___ Users mailing list -- users@ovirt.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@ovirt.org Privacy Statement: https://www.ovirt.org/privacy-pol

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-06 Thread gary
I have been using NFS and iSCSI for a couple of years now and they work so much better for me than GlusterFS ever did. Gary On 2022-02-04 06:05, Thomas Hoberg wrote: I just read this message: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016359 I am shocked but not surprised. And very, very s

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-06 Thread Strahil Nikolov via Users
True, but with Highly Available NFS on the oVirt Nodes (Hyperconverged) ... It's just hard to setup, you need pacemaker and DRBD. Best Regards,Strahil Nikolov On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 23:07, g...@ravnalaska.net wrote: I have been using NFS and iSCSI for a couple of years now and they work

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-06 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno ven 4 feb 2022 alle ore 20:28 Strahil Nikolov via Users < users@ovirt.org> ha scritto: > RHV & RHGS might be abandoned, but this doesn't mean that oVirt & Gluster > should stop existing just because a corporation doesn't see HugePiles of $ > in them. Removing Gluster support from oVirt,

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-06 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno ven 4 feb 2022 alle ore 16:06 Thomas Hoberg ha scritto: > I just read this message: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016359 > > I am shocked but not surprised. And very, very sad. > > But I believe this decision needs to be communicated more prominently, as > people should

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-06 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno sab 5 feb 2022 alle ore 13:30 Nathanaël Blanchet ha scritto: > Can anybody from redhat confirm what is supposed here, all my staff > depends on the future of ovirt. How can we help to maintain this project > alive if redhat dev are not implicated anymore? I may donate some hardware > or

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-07 Thread Thomas Hoberg
Sandro, I am ever so glad you're fighting on, buon coraggio! Yes, please write a blog post on how oVirt could develop without a commercial downstream product that pays your salaries. Ideally you'd add a perspective for current HCI users, many of which chose this approach, because a fault-tolera

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-07 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
Il giorno lun 7 feb 2022 alle ore 09:28 Thomas Hoberg ha scritto: > Sandro, I am ever so glad you're fighting on, buon coraggio! > Thanks :-) > > Yes, please write a blog post on how oVirt could develop without a > commercial downstream product that pays your salaries. > I have no magic recip

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-07 Thread Nir Soffer
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 3:04 PM Sandro Bonazzola wrote: > > > Il giorno lun 7 feb 2022 alle ore 09:28 Thomas Hoberg > ha scritto: > >> Sandro, I am ever so glad you're fighting on, buon coraggio! >> > > Thanks :-) > > >> >> Yes, please write a blog post on how oVirt could develop without a >> com

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-07 Thread Guillaume Pavese
To replicate HCI without Gluster, is there a way to set up a Managed Block Storage (I think that means Ceph?) cluster hosted on the hypervisors, in a similar way as a Gluster Replica 3 ? Is that possible/recommended or discouraged? We are not ready for Openshift/Kubevirt yet and we would like to i

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-08 Thread Michal Skrivanek
> On 8. 2. 2022, at 6:14, Guillaume Pavese > wrote: > > To replicate HCI without Gluster, > is there a way to set up a Managed Block Storage (I think that means Ceph?) > cluster hosted on the hypervisors, in a similar way as a Gluster Replica 3 ? oVirt's MBS (CEPH) support is targeted for e

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-09 Thread 赵井达
ola" 发送日期:2022-02-07 15:54:30 收件人:"Nathanaël Blanchet" ,"Sanja Bonic" 抄送人:"Thomas Hoberg" ,"oVirt Users" 主题:[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page? Il giorno sab 5 feb 2022 alle ore 13:30 Nathanaël

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-09 Thread Sandro Bonazzola
ze the docs to be able to accept contributions in different languages if not already able to accept contributions in that direction. > > > > -- > Jingda Zhao > > 发件人:"Sandro Bonazzola" > 发送日期:2022-02-07 15:54:30 > 收件人:"Nathanaël Blanchet" ,"Sanja

[ovirt-users] Re: RHGS and RHV closing down: could you please put that on the home page?

2022-02-14 Thread Thomas Hoberg
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 3:04 PM Sandro Bonazzola wrote: > > > The oVirt storage team never worked on HCI and we don't plan to work on > it in the future. HCI was designed and maintained by Gluster folks. Our > contribution for HCI was adding 4k support, enabling usage of VDO. > > Improving on