Re: razor servers down?

2004-09-08 Thread kaiser suse
Thanks for the info - BTW the cloudmark servers seem to all be back online now... e Bill Landry said: > - Original Message - > From: "kaiser suse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> BTW I have head of folly and joy, but where does one find the definitive >> list of cloudmark servers? > > Don't kno

Re: razor servers down?

2004-09-08 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: "kaiser suse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > BTW I have head of folly and joy, but where does one find the definitive > list of cloudmark servers? Don't know if there is a master list somewhere, but here are the razor servers that I know of: folly.cloudmark.com joy.clo

Re: razor servers down?

2004-09-08 Thread kaiser suse
Yikes - that's a lot of razor configs to edit, I have 1000 users invoking spamc from procmail... time to whip up a little perl script I guess. BTW I have head of folly and joy, but where does one find the definitive list of cloudmark servers? e Bill Landry said: > - Original Message - >

Re: razor servers down?

2004-09-08 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: "Keyser SuSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Since midmorning PST today (Sept 8), all razor servers have been > rejecting connections - did I miss an announcement somehow? Did anybody > else see this coming? I had to switch from the "thrill" and "pride" servers this mo

razor servers down?

2004-09-08 Thread Keyser SuSE
Since midmorning PST today (Sept 8), all razor servers have been rejecting connections - did I miss an announcement somehow? Did anybody else see this coming? e Sep 08 15:40:31.233958 check[7543]: [ 2] [bootup] Logging initiated LogDebugLevel=3 to file:/home/jjs/.razor/razor-agent.log Sep 08 1

Re: 3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Josh Trutwin
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:04:00 -0500 Michael Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To migrate AWL data you can use the convert_awl_dbm_to_sql script in > the tools directory. Looks like I have it working though I think I'm going to give up on importing my bayes db into MySQL and re-train it because it

Re: 3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Lucas Albers
It would be nice if we had full complete directions on upgrading to sql based for SA 3.0. Step by step. -- Luke Computer Science System Administrator Security Administrator,College of Engineering Montana State University-Bozeman,Montana

Re: [OT] 3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Josh Trutwin
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:16:06 -0500 Josh Trutwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Meta: In the future, please limit your line length, it makes it > > easier > > to reply. > > Really? I have it set to wrap at 70 chars. Should it be less? > (Sylpheed Claws client). Let me try this: "Wrap befo

RE: ANNOUNCE: ApacheCon US 2004 (SpamAssassin Sessions!)

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
Its Vegas baby! What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas! ;) Was the air horn for the hotel? --Chris (My wife won't let me within 50 miles of Vegas!) >-Original Message- >From: Gary Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 5:17 PM >To: Gary Smith; Chris Santerre

RE: ANNOUNCE: ApacheCon US 2004 (SpamAssassin Sessions!)

2004-09-08 Thread Gary Smith
Correction, Rooms... My wife might get a little confused if she reads that one! :) Gary From: Gary Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 9/8/2004 2:16 PM To: Chris Santerre; users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: ANNOUNCE: ApacheCon US 2004 (SpamAssass

Re: 3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Marco van den Bovenkamp
Josh Trutwin wrote: But the man page says: --restore=filename Performs a restore of the Bayes database defined by filename. WARNING: This is a destructive operation, previous Bayes data will be wiped out. That doesn't sound promising! Remember that your *SQL* Bayes db is empty at that point... --

RE: ANNOUNCE: ApacheCon US 2004 (SpamAssassin Sessions!)

2004-09-08 Thread Gary Smith
Since no one else is offering I guess I'll go with you... Do you know if they allow air horns? BTW, I got a free hat at Linux world that say's "Linux Rocks" by the guy at the door because the hat I was wearing had a penguin with his head blown off... He said it was "Inpropriate" (not a missp

Re: 3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Josh Trutwin
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 16:04:00 -0500 Michael Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Meta: In the future, please limit your line length, it makes it > easier > to reply. Really? I have it set to wrap at 70 chars. Should it be less? (Sylpheed Claws client). Let me try this: "Wrap before sending

Re: 3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Josh Trutwin
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004 17:00:15 -0400 Theo Van Dinter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe the SQL docs have more info Doesn't appear to - there is no mention of either the words "restore" or "dump" in the SQL docs or the UPGRADE file. Might be a nice addition before 3.0 goes final. > but IIRC

Re: 3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Michael Parker
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 03:55:43PM -0500, Josh Trutwin wrote: > > My best guess is that after upgrading the configuration file to use > the SQL settings, sa-learn --sync would migrate the current AWL/Bayes > files in DB_File format to SQL. Is that correct? > Meta: In the future, please limit yo

Re: 3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Sep 08, 2004 at 03:55:43PM -0500, Josh Trutwin wrote: > My best guess is that after upgrading the configuration file to use the SQL > settings, sa-learn --sync would migrate the current AWL/Bayes files in > DB_File format to SQL. Is that correct? --sync syncronizes the journal and the d

3.0.0-rc3 - Migrate Bayes/AWL to SQL?

2004-09-08 Thread Josh Trutwin
I've been reading through the 3.0 docs figured I'd upgrade a test box from 2.64 and play with it. I'm looking to use the SQL AWL/Bayes feature since I'm already using the userpref feature. My best guess is that after upgrading the configuration file to use the SQL settings, sa-learn --sync w

Re: Hiding SQL password?

2004-09-08 Thread Eric W. Bates
You could give everyone their own login to mysql? (onerous) Jason Levine wrote: Is there any way to hide the SQL database password from users? Currently, it's plaintext in the local.cf file, a file that has to be world-readable in order for users to be able to use the spamassassin client in an set

Anyone try Mail Avenger?

2004-09-08 Thread Eric W. Bates
I have not had time to read past the gush on the homepage: http://freshmeat.net/projects/mailavenger/, but it gives me the impression that you could drop it into postfix (as a replacement for smtpd) and run per user SA. Anyone have any experience with it? -- Eric W. Bates

Savvis potentially shutting down 148 spammers on its network

2004-09-08 Thread William Stearns
Good day, all, http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3634572.stm , seen on slashdot. I don't know anything more than what's there, but it would be marvelous if their claim of shutting off their spamming customers within 10 days was true. Just in case it does turn out to b

RE: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Smart,Dan
> -Original Message- > From: Don Saklad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 12:02 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Usability. Spamassassin. > > Thank you for your interest in the usability of the > spamassassin

Re: 1-Megabyte Spam

2004-09-08 Thread Mariano Absatz
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 16:36:55 -0700, Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It had to happen, I suppose. This morning I received a 996 KB message > advertising, as near as I can tell, some Taiwanese take-out restaurant. > And by Taiwanese, I don't mean style of cooking, but *location*. > (Yeah, next

Re: report using Outlook

2004-09-08 Thread Mathieu Nantel
Hi Jack, I think you can setup so-called "public" spam and ham (not-spam) imap folders where all users can drop incorrectly tagged mail. Then you run a cron job that gets SA to learn from these folders. There was a guide on how to do exactly this on the SA wiki pages, I seem to recall. Someone

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Andy Jezierski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/08/2004 12:13:04 PM: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > [snip] > > Although it would be nice if the links above actually looked like links > > to Joe Average rather then being in the same colour as the actual text!! > > they don't? they're in

report using Outlook

2004-09-08 Thread Jack Hsieh
Hello Folks, We installed Spamassassin yesterday with great success. However, we use Outlook as the primary email client; is there anyway to report spam using Outlook?   Thanks J.H

Re: timing/performance issues

2004-09-08 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ralf Hildebrandt writes: > I'm using spamassassin from within amavisd-new. Loggin shows that > amavis's SA-check is the most time-consuming step while processing an > email (>>80% of the total time needed). > > How can I run spamassassin against some

Re: Solaris 9, CommuniGate, and Spamassassin

2004-09-08 Thread David Birnbaum
Mark, We set up our own integration package; however, you probably want something like CGPSA - http://www.tffenterprises.com/cgpsa, which is a pretty nice full-featured setup. Cheers, David. - On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: We've been long time users of sendmail with Sola

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Hepworth writes: > NM Public wrote: > > > > > And then say something like: If you do not immediately know the answer > > to all these questions, you should not be installing or administering > > SpamAssassin (unless it is for educational pu

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
Thank you for your interest in the usability of the spamassassin headers ! At this end spamassassin headers appear with messages in emacs rmail. What puzzles people is how to use the headers effectively, efficiently, where many have not the apparent mastery exhibited among the other enthusiasts.

Re: -Metalevel. Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Andy Jezierski
Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/08/2004 11:46:34 AM: > Who do you believe actually set it up?... stormloader.com/saklad > > >IFRAME: >http://216.98.142.114/cgi-bin/advertpro/banners.fcgi? > region=7&keyword=NULL >Click Here! > >The Don

-Metalevel. Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
Who do you believe actually set it up?... stormloader.com/saklad IFRAME: http://216.98.142.114/cgi-bin/advertpro/banners.fcgi?region=7&keyword=NULL Click Here! The Don Saklad Tribute pages logo Don Saklad, BPL, Boston Public L

RE: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, [N.B.: I'm speaking generally to this thread, not specifically to Chris.] On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Chris Santerre wrote: > I was mistaken. MIT now teaches Trolling 101. [...] I'm not willing to personalize this issue. SpamAssassin *is* difficult to use and is probably unusable for most unskilled/

Re: SpamAssissin

2004-09-08 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:03 AM 9/8/2004, Seyyed Mehdi Sheikhalishahi wrote: I installed qmail and spamassissin on it. I don't know how configure spamass to have a blacklist, whitelist ? How update spam database of spamass for new spammer? First, read the manpage for the configuration. This will detail how to change

RE: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Jim Sabatke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 11:35 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers? > > >Martin Hepworth wrote: >> Jim >> >> Pierre's scores are similar t

Re: spamassassin 2.60 to 2.64 initial nonspam test fails

2004-09-08 Thread Mike Burger
On Wed, 8 Sep 2004, Obantec Support wrote: > Hi > > I have upgraded from 2.60 to 2.64 but the test > spamassassin -t < sample-nonspam.txt > nonspam.out locks up. > spamassassin -t < sample-spam.txt > spam.out works as expected. Disk corruption, file corruption, lack of disk space? -- Mike Burge

Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Jim Sabatke
Martin Hepworth wrote: Jim Pierre's scores are similar to mine - what extra rules do you run, do you use surbl.org and any RBL's/pyzor/razor/bayes stuff? I find you need to add in alot of the SARE rules, surbl, bayes, razor/pyzor to get the setup working well. I use a lot of SARE rules. I als

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Julian Field
At 16:43 07/09/2004, Don Saklad wrote: How to use spamassassin explanations have not worked out for people with no mastery of computers. There are neophytes and others not agile with the learning curve unable to use spamassassin. 1. Install MailScanner. Plenty of installation help available, and it

RE: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:52 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Usability. Spamassassin. > > >Chris Santerre wrote: > >> >>Is MIT teaching a course in useless sarcasim now? Both of >your respo

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Tom Meunier
Don Saklad wrote: Here's the original question that did not get through !... http://zork.net/~dsaklad/usabilityspamassassin.html Are you aware that no question actually appears anywhere on that page? It seems like it's perhaps a statement of frustration. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-qu

spamassassin 2.60 to 2.64 initial nonspam test fails

2004-09-08 Thread Obantec Support
Hi I have upgraded from 2.60 to 2.64 but the test spamassassin -t < sample-nonspam.txt > nonspam.out locks up. spamassassin -t < sample-spam.txt > spam.out works as expected. Any ideas? Mark

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
Here's the original question that did not get through !... http://zork.net/~dsaklad/usabilityspamassassin.html

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Andy Jezierski
Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/07/2004 10:43:45 AM: > How to use spamassassin explanations have not worked out for people > with no mastery of computers. There are neophytes and others not agile > with the learning curve unable to use spamassassin. > > Apparently compiling a list o

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Tom Meunier
Chris Santerre wrote: Is MIT teaching a course in useless sarcasim now? Both of your responses do nothing to help this conversation. Next time Bob might just answer RTFM, instead of actually trying to help you. http://www.stormloader.com/saklad/ Don is um... probably not looking for an answer. H

RE: ANNOUNCE: ApacheCon US 2004 (SpamAssassin Sessions!)

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Daniel Quinlan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 4:05 PM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: ANNOUNCE: ApacheCon US 2004 (SpamAssassin Sessions!) > > >ApacheCon US 2004 > > Alexis Park Resort > Las Vegas, Nevada, USA > 13-1

Re: SpamAssassin help

2004-09-08 Thread Marco van den Bovenkamp
Chris Santerre wrote: Antispam should NOT happen at the client! It should happen at the ISP level. Otherwise POP3 or IMAP has already downloaded the stupid thing. Whats the sense in that? SO you don't have to read it, big whoop! Still took up your time already. With ever more people on some form of

RE: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Robert Menschel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:51 AM >To: Pierre Thomson >Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers? > > >Hello Pierre, > >Wednesday, September 8, 20

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 09:55:08 -0400 Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > See also > usability > http://www.google.com/search?q=define:+usability Please rephrase this in the form of a question. -- Bob

RE: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Don Saklad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:55 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Usability. Spamassassin. > > >See also > usability >http://www.google.com/search?q=define:+usability Is MIT te

Re: timing/performance issues

2004-09-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ralf Hildebrandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm using spamassassin from within amavisd-new. Loggin shows that > amavis's SA-check is the most time-consuming step while processing an > email (>>80% of the total time needed). > > How can I run spamassassin against some mails to find out what part of

RE: SpamAssassin help

2004-09-08 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: jdow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 11:10 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: SpamAssassin help > > >From: "Robert Menschel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "lloe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> Hello lloe, >> >> Tuesday, September 7, 2004

RE: Mass-check errors

2004-09-08 Thread Smart,Dan
> -Original Message- > From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 7:12 PM > To: Smart,Dan > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Mass-check errors > TextCat looks for $rulesdir/languages, which via your above > command is /etc/mail/spamass

Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Martin Hepworth
Jim Pierre's scores are similar to mine - what extra rules do you run, do you use surbl.org and any RBL's/pyzor/razor/bayes stuff? I find you need to add in alot of the SARE rules, surbl, bayes, razor/pyzor to get the setup working well. -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
See also usability http://www.google.com/search?q=define:+usability

Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Pierre, Wednesday, September 8, 2004, 5:38:40 AM, you wrote: PT> I have had a couple of FP's recently from valid AOL users. AOL PT> recommends appending digits to your screen name to make it unique, PT> and many users do that. The result (sender using AOL 9.0 client, SA PT> 2.63) is a pen

Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Jim Sabatke
Pierre Thomson wrote: Martin, The real egregious spams score up in the 20's and 30's, and the vast majority score over 12. What we review represents only a tiny fraction of the received spam, and some of the "sham" which is hardest to categorize. Pierre I keep reading these numbers and they don't

RE: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Pierre Thomson
Martin, The real egregious spams score up in the 20's and 30's, and the vast majority score over 12. What we review represents only a tiny fraction of the received spam, and some of the "sham" which is hardest to categorize. Pierre -Original Message- From: Martin Hepworth [mailto:[EMA

Re: Rs: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-08 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How come. Unless you give a bonus to SPF pass, then there's no real > incentive for legit domains to use it (until people start rejecting > SPF fails... ). We give points to SPF fails, so the incentive (in SpamAssassin) is that forged mail using your dom

Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Martin Hepworth
Pierre glad to see you've got time to check this email - I leave this to the users :-) tends to be 1-2 per user per day, if that..much better than the 80+ spams a day they where getting! -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Pierre Thomson wrote:

RE: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Pierre Thomson
I quarantine mail scoring between 6.0 and 12.0 (it's 99% spam) using MailScanner's quarantine system. It's delivered to a spambox that I check hourly during the day. We get only a couple of true FP's per week, and the last two were from two different AOL addresses. For a quick fix, I took AOL

Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Steve Bertrand
>> I have had a couple of FP's recently from valid AOL users. AOL >> recommends appending digits to your screen name to make it unique, >> and >> many users do that. The result (sender using AOL 9.0 client, SA >> 2.63) >> is a penalty of 6.39 points right off the bat. Isn't that a bit >> extreme

Re: SpamAssissin

2004-09-08 Thread Steve Bertrand
> Hi > I installed qmail and spamassissin on it. I don't know how configure > spamass to have a blacklist, whitelist ? > How update spam database of spamass for new spammer? Ahhh, did you even attempt to read through some of the FAQ wiki or any of the documentation on the SA homepage, or the distr

Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Steve Bertrand
> I have had a couple of FP's recently from valid AOL users. AOL > recommends appending digits to your screen name to make it unique, and > many users do that. The result (sender using AOL 9.0 client, SA 2.63) > is a penalty of 6.39 points right off the bat. Isn't that a bit > extreme? I know a

Re: Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Martin Hepworth
Pierre depends on how you handle a score of 6.651 in MailScanner I deliver (with Tagged subject) scores from 5-10, and block anything with score > 10, so this kind of thing still ends up in the recipients email. You could lower the score of the rules in spam.assassin.prefs.conf, or whitelis

Unreasonable penalty for AOL addresses ending in numbers?

2004-09-08 Thread Pierre Thomson
I have had a couple of FP's recently from valid AOL users. AOL recommends appending digits to your screen name to make it unique, and many users do that. The result (sender using AOL 9.0 client, SA 2.63) is a penalty of 6.39 points right off the bat. Isn't that a bit extreme? Pierre Thomson

SpamAssissin

2004-09-08 Thread Seyyed Mehdi Sheikhalishahi
Hi I installed qmail and spamassissin on it. I don't know how configure spamass to have a blacklist, whitelist ? How update spam database of spamass for new spammer? Thanks.

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Martin Hepworth
NM Public wrote: And then say something like: If you do not immediately know the answer to all these questions, you should not be installing or administering SpamAssassin (unless it is for educational purposes and for processing only *your* email). The Procmail web site needs this too! NM alr

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread NM Public
On 7 Sep 2004 Bob Apthorpe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [...] If the answer is 'a WinXP user who retrieves mail via POP3 with Outlook and who does not use the command line and does not program, not even a little bit, and who wants a button to press to make spam go away' then the answer is probably no

Solaris 9, CommuniGate, and Spamassassin

2004-09-08 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
We've been long time users of sendmail with Solaris, along with SpamAssassin, procmail, and John Hardin's ESD for virus scanning (thanks John, it's worked great!) for the last couple of years. We're in the process of upgrading our server, hardware wise, and will also be switching over to Commu

Re: Rs: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-08 Thread NM Public
On 7 Sep 2004 Joe Emenaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: By the same token, the point was never to be able to spot spammers by noting who isn't using SPF. Rather, the point is to make the blacklists more reliable. It is *only* when you use SPF in *conjunction* with blacklists/whitelists that you se

timing/performance issues

2004-09-08 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
I'm using spamassassin from within amavisd-new. Loggin shows that amavis's SA-check is the most time-consuming step while processing an email (>>80% of the total time needed). How can I run spamassassin against some mails to find out what part of spamassassin (maybe some sort of external DNS query

RE: Rs: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-08 Thread Paul Hutchings
> How come. Unless you give a bonus to SPF pass, then there's no real > incentive for legit domains to use it (until people start > rejecting SPF > fails... ). The idea that spammers can pass SPF doesn't bother me at > all, since I know that it will make the blacklists that much more > effecti

Re: Rs: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-08 Thread Joe Emenaker
Daniel Quinlan wrote: Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Although others have already given reasons why, I figured I'd toss in the analogy to explain why the dude from CypherTrust in the article is lacking in clue: The SpamAssassin development team has been aware of SPF pass results

training bayesian filter

2004-09-08 Thread Lito Lampitoc
Hello, I recently setup bayesian filtering with my mail system, Postfix + Spamassassin. I tried to train bayesian filter by forwarding spam to a particular address e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED], by following this reference in the web http://jousset.org/pub/sa-postfix.en.html, and even changed my MUA to

Re: Rs: SpamAssassin 3.0.0-rc3 RELEASE CANDIDATE available!

2004-09-08 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Although others have already given reasons why, I figured I'd toss in > the analogy to explain why the dude from CypherTrust in the article is > lacking in clue: The SpamAssassin development team has been aware of SPF pass results for spam since May (a

Update of Quarantine for SA

2004-09-08 Thread Olivier Nicole
While revamping a little my quarantine scripts for SA (http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/laboratory/email/quarantine.shtml) I dicovered that the one script that report the incoming spam had an error and it would be reporting the spam of user "foobar" to the user "bar" (anyting ending with "bar" would be repo

Re: How to know what RuleSets are working, easily?

2004-09-08 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Tuesday 07 September 2004 6:26 am, Bob Apthorpe wrote: > > The file as it is now running, or not, is: > > > > #! /bin/bash > > DEFFILES="/etc/mail/spamassassin/*.cf" > > GREPSTR="describe" > > cat $DEFFILES | egrep ^$GREPSTR  \ > > > > | awk '{ print "echo `fgrep " $2 "/home/robbo/.Mail/Spa

Re: Skip mail already checked mails?

2004-09-08 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:43 AM 8/21/2004 +0200, you wrote: Here is a setup: domain.com MX 10 relay1.domain.com MX 20 relay2.domain.com relay1 & relay2 have booth a SpamAssassing running. Problem: when a mail is received on relay2, it's being check by SA and tagged as spam. Later, relay2 sent it to relay1.

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 22:26:58 -0400 Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...to put into action or service : avail oneself of : employ > > Click on the verb > use[2, verb] > at > http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=use&x=15&y=15 That really doesn't help, now does it?

Re: SpamAssassin help

2004-09-08 Thread jdow
From: "Robert Menschel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "lloe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello lloe, > > Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 9:47:13 AM, you wrote: > > l> Hello Fellow Users, > > l> When I saw Don's email " How neophytes without mastery of > l> computers can use spamassassin. " I felt that I am someo

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Don Saklad
...to put into action or service : avail oneself of : employ Click on the verb use[2, verb] at http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=use&x=15&y=15

Hiding SQL password?

2004-09-08 Thread Jason Levine
Is there any way to hide the SQL database password from users? Currently, it's plaintext in the local.cf file, a file that has to be world-readable in order for users to be able to use the spamassassin client in an setuid environment. (Thus, setting the file to disallow world reading results in u

Re[2]: not deleting

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello guenther, George, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 2:46:13 AM, Guenther responded to George: >> I have a cpanel hosting account with spamassassin where you only have >> 3 options on the SA page. I can enable SA, enable a spam box, and >> then another button to edit the user_prefs file. Same he

Re[4]: *** Please, help to add such a rule

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello mort+spamassassin, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 10:32:20 AM, you wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Menschel writes: >>LW> header SUB_UNDERSCORESSubject =~ /__/ >>LW> scoreSUB_UNDERSCORES0.1 >>LW> But don't use it, or at least not with any significant score. >>Well,

Re: SpamAssassin help

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello lloe, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 9:47:13 AM, you wrote: l> Hello Fellow Users, l> When I saw Don's email " How neophytes without mastery of l> computers can use spamassassin. " I felt that I am someone who is also l> in Don's shoes. My impression wasn't that Don was a neophyte, unable to

Re: Usability. Spamassassin.

2004-09-08 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Don, Tuesday, September 7, 2004, 8:43:45 AM, you wrote: DS> How to use spamassassin explanations have not worked out for people DS> with no mastery of computers. There are neophytes and others not agile DS> with the learning curve unable to use spamassassin. What do you mean by "to use spa

Re: Mass-check errors

2004-09-08 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 04:50:17PM -0500, Smart,Dan wrote: > > Otherwise I would try explicitly running "mass-check -c > > /path/to/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.64/rules" > > I did point to my 2.64 rules, per... > ./mass-check -c=/etc/mail/spamassassin/ --progress --net --mbox > /var/spool/procmail/tem

Re: Mass-check errors

2004-09-08 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 05:19:58PM -0500, Smart,Dan wrote: > perl -d:DProf ./mass-check -c=/etc/mail/spamassassin/test --net --mbox > /var/spool/procmail/tempfail > > Segmentation fault > > Any suggestions? Yeah, that'd DProf... You can try rerunning it a few times, DProf is picky sometimes. I