Big companies using SpamAssassin?

2004-09-11 Thread Daniel Quinlan
The Apache SpamAssassin project is looking to get in touch with large companies (Fortune 1000) or large user installations (roughly 100,000 users or higher) that are happy using SpamAssassin and might not mind telling the world that they are. We're aware of some, but we suspect there are a lot mor

Re: **Bounced** folder setting help

2004-09-11 Thread Obantec Support
Hi the only thing in procmailrc is the spamd lines and an includerc for virussnagger which i have been thru and cannot see any references to **Bounced** so i assume its one the spamassassin rules. Mark - Original Message - From: "Kai Schaetzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, Se

Re: spamassassin --lint: cannot open languages: No such file or directory

2004-09-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Sep 11, 2004 at 03:07:32PM -0400, Kevin Old wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] .spamassassin]# spamassassin -D --lint > --config-file=/etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf [...] > debug: using "/etc/MailScanner/spam.assassin.prefs.conf" for default rules dir [...] > cannot open languages: No su

Re: **Bounced** folder setting help

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Obantec Support wrote on Sat, 11 Sep 2004 20:03:10 +0100: > Since there is no path etc where is the config for this "Folder"? > in the .procmailrc ? It's got really nothing to do with SA. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.co

Re: Unbalanced Bayes SPAM / HAM Count

2004-09-11 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 07:31 AM 9/10/2004, Gustafson, Tim wrote: > >What I'm worried about is that I have so many more SPAM than HAM messages. > >Is this dangerous? > > No, in fact it's closer to optimal than a 50-50 mix is... > > Remember, Bayes is a statistical system..

Re: SA 3.0-RC2 producing extremely large bayes journal files

2004-09-11 Thread Daniel Quinlan
"Kai Schaetzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For about a week I've been seeing SA time-outs in MailScanner (120 sec > time-out) and on investigating it seems the reason are extremely large > bayes journal files. I ran "sa-learn -D --sync" and that took quite long, > about two minutes. As I unde

Re: SARE vs SA rules contributions

2004-09-11 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Robert Menschel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sept 9, Daniel Quinlan added a note to the bottom of > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ContributingNewRules (the stuff > within the parentheses). > > > You can also post your SpamAssassinRules to the SARE forums at > > http://www.rulesemporium.

SARE vs SA rules contributions

2004-09-11 Thread Robert Menschel
On Sept 9, Daniel Quinlan added a note to the bottom of http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ContributingNewRules (the stuff within the parentheses). > You can also post your SpamAssassinRules to the SARE forums at > http://www.rulesemporium.com/forums/ -- SARE will test rules that seem > promising

Re: Moron ratware

2004-09-11 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Saturday, September 11, 2004 12:10 PM -0700 John Hardin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unfortunately, unless the tarpit responds to the first packet with a SMTP welcome banner, the connection won't be tarpitted for longer than the "wait for SMTP welcome" timeout in the client. You need to convin

Re: Spammer using my domain name in FROM field

2004-09-11 Thread p dont think
Spammer apparently is using [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the FROm field of the emails he is sending out. Domain is one of my customers virtual domain, spammer made up the username in the email address. Now I am getting burried by mail notifications returning to sender...obviously wrong person. How do

Re: Moron ratware

2004-09-11 Thread John Hardin
On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 00:09, Kenneth Porter wrote: > --On Friday, September 10, 2004 10:05 PM -0700 Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Sounds like a good application for a tarpit, i.e.: > > > > http://www.spamcannibal.org/ > > Good idea. Alas, the FC2 kernel lacks the netfilter tarpi

spamassassin --lint: cannot open languages: No such file or directory

2004-09-11 Thread Kevin Old
Hello eveyrone, I have SA 2.64 and am trying to run a simple --lint test, but am getting the error message below. I am running RH 9 and have set $LANG=en_US and have "ok_languages" set to "en" in MailScanners spam.assassin.prefs.conf file. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .spamassassin]# spamassassin -D --lin

Re: SPF and spammers

2004-09-11 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 2004-09-10 at 17:12, Kelson wrote: > John Hardin wrote: > > I.E.: get an email that passes SPF, and scores high. Look at the > > relevant SPF record and blacklist/high-score all of the hosts it states > > are valid sources for that sender domain. > > Bad, *bad* idea. You're inviting DOSes

**Bounced** folder setting help

2004-09-11 Thread Obantec Support
Hi Just upgraded from 2.60 to 2.64 and some emails are marked to go to folder **Bounced** in procmail log i.e Subject: JUST 25 Dollars for cartons of Marlboro, Camel, Kool, Winston,Salem, Folder: **Bounced**4325 Since there is no path etc where is the config for this "Folder"? Mark -- Ob

Re: Spammer using my domain name in FROM field

2004-09-11 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Welcome to the real world, this is you wakeup call ;) This is happening all the time, not much you can do about this. A countermeasuer could be using SPF records, so people at least have a way to check if its you or not. Or you could get a digital ID and sign all your outgoing mails :) Sure,

Re: Spammer using my domain name in FROM field

2004-09-11 Thread Michele Neylon :: Blacknight Solutions
> Hi! > >> Spammer apparently is using [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the FROm field >> of >> the emails he is sending out. Domain is one of my customers virtual >> domain, >> spammer made up the username in the email address. Now I am getting >> burried >> by mail notifications returning to sender...obvi

Re: Spammer using my domain name in FROM field

2004-09-11 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Spammer apparently is using [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the FROm field of the emails he is sending out. Domain is one of my customers virtual domain, spammer made up the username in the email address. Now I am getting burried by mail notifications returning to sender...obviously wrong person. How

Re: Spammer using my domain name in FROM field

2004-09-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 11:47 AM 9/11/2004 -0500, you wrote: Spammer apparently is using [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the FROm field of the emails he is sending out. Domain is one of my customers virtual domain, spammer made up the username in the email address. Now I am getting burried by mail notifications returning to s

Re: Just how many addresses are there for this list?

2004-09-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:11 AM 9/11/2004 -0500, you wrote: So far I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] users@spamassassin.apache.org users@spamassassin.apache.org is the current list address, however the old incubator address still forwards. Trying to filter all mail to this list. Don't use the To: address field, use the List

Spammer using my domain name in FROM field

2004-09-11 Thread Predrag Lezaic
Spammer apparently is using [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the FROm field of the emails he is sending out. Domain is one of my customers virtual domain, spammer made up the username in the email address. Now I am getting burried by mail notifications returning to sender...obviously wrong person. How do

Re: SpamAssassin timed out errors

2004-09-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:11 PM 9/10/2004 -0400, Kevin Old wrote: Anyone have ideas why I'd be seeing these messages all of a sudden on a 2.64 installation with no changes? Sep 10 18:07:49 s15111287 MailScanner[28540]: SpamAssassin timed out and was killed, failure 13 of 20 Sep 10 18:07:50 s15111287 MailScanner[28540]

Home grown rules: What am I on to?

2004-09-11 Thread Declan Moriarty
[NOOB warning here!] I am on a small lousy isp (named above) and get _no_mail_ I want with another ntlworld.ie address on it. Spammers bulk mail to each server for efficiency. Punishing a second address on your isp would be stupid in the extreme on other servers (e.g. aol.com) but a very good idea

Re: SPF and spammers

2004-09-11 Thread Tom Meunier
Mike Burger wrote: The problem, however, is that SPF's usability also relies on MX records. In my case, I have 2 MX records, and my SPF record is set up thusly: "v=spf1 a mx -all" Essentially saying that all my MX records are valid senders, as well. All the spammer has to do is list those server

Re: SPF and spammers

2004-09-11 Thread Mike Burger
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004, Codger wrote: > I don't think it would make any difference if the spammer listed any > other servers in HIS DNS SPF records. Your server won't look at his DNS > for yahoo's SPF records. That's what SPF is all about. It gives the > owner of the domain name exclusive ability

Re: Just how many addresses are there for this list?

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Robert Nicholson wrote on Sat, 11 Sep 2004 09:11:26 -0500: > users@spamassassin.apache.org > only this, the other one is obsolete for a few weeks now. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://m

Re: Just how many addresses are there for this list?

2004-09-11 Thread Tom Meunier
Robert Nicholson wrote: So far I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] users@spamassassin.apache.org Trying to filter all mail to this list. Howdy Robert, Does your mail client allow you to filter on the headers? I use List-ID: contains the string [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -tom

SA 3.0-RC2 producing extremely large bayes journal files

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
For about a week I've been seeing SA time-outs in MailScanner (120 sec time-out) and on investigating it seems the reason are extremely large bayes journal files. I ran "sa-learn -D --sync" and that took quite long, about two minutes. As I understand SA should try to sync once a day? So, it see

Just how many addresses are there for this list?

2004-09-11 Thread Robert Nicholson
So far I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] users@spamassassin.apache.org Trying to filter all mail to this list.

Re: Start an IP list to block?

2004-09-11 Thread Jeff Chan
On Saturday, September 11, 2004, 6:32:59 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Jeff Chan wrote on Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:30:20 -0700: >> We already handle domain names and IP addresses that appear in >> URIs. If IPv6 is ever globally routable and referred to un >> URIs, we will handle them also. > Ah, I see. S

Re: SURBL problems

2004-09-11 Thread Jeff Chan
On Saturday, September 11, 2004, 6:32:57 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > There are RBL time-outs for > local.cf, but they don't apply to URIDNSBL since this is a separate > module. Here's a timeout mentioned in URIDNSBL.pm: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.0.x/dist/lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/

Re: SPF and spammers

2004-09-11 Thread jdow
From: "John Hardin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A thought: now that spammers are using SPF to "legitimize" their email, > could *we* use it as a means to shut them down sooner? > > I.E.: get an email that passes SPF, and scores high. Look at the > relevant SPF record and blacklist/high-score all of the

Re: SpamAssassin timed out errors

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Kevin Old wrote on Fri, 10 Sep 2004 18:11:59 -0400: > I'm using SURBLare there problems with the SURBL servers? > Probably not. Run an "sa-learn -D --sync" to see if it's bayes-related. We are getting the same and it's somehow related to the journal. I just saw a 170 MB journal which sounds

Re: Start an IP list to block?

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jeff Chan wrote on Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:30:20 -0700: > We already handle domain names and IP addresses that appear in > URIs. If IPv6 is ever globally routable and referred to un > URIs, we will handle them also. Ah, I see. So, in this case you handle IPs as if they were domains? > > > 2. It's

Re: SURBL problems

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jeff Chan wrote on Sat, 11 Sep 2004 03:16:32 -0700: > I would expect DNS timeouts are imposed by the application or > operating system. I don't think anyone would allow these > programs to run indefinitely due to the lack of a timeout > value. > Jeff, you already answered my question with a simi

SQL lookups failing after upgrade to 2.64

2004-09-11 Thread Andy Nash
Hi, I have been using spamassassin for some time alongside procmail (3.22-9), postfix (2.1.1-3.MySQL.sasl2.tls.rh9) and mysql (4.0.20-0). I was running 2.63 until last week and all was fine and very stable until I upgraded to 2.64, when for some reason SQL options were being ignored. Procmail pas

Re: Start an IP list to block?

2004-09-11 Thread Jeff Chan
On Saturday, September 11, 2004, 2:51:31 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Jeff Chan wrote on Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:43:39 -0700: >> If you're talking about adding resolved IP addresses to SURBLs, >> no we're not going to do that. :-( >> >> What I'm talking about is an internal process where we keep track

Re: SURBL problems

2004-09-11 Thread Jeff Chan
On Saturday, September 11, 2004, 2:51:38 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > But, there's still my concern about SURBL timeouts. It seems there's no > way to specify SURBL timeouts. Is this true? If so, this is an absolute > must to add in the URIDNSBL module. DNS timeouts for the other RBL lookups > are a

Re: SURBL problems

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jeff Chan wrote on Mon, 6 Sep 2004 18:25:48 -0700: > I assume all programs are subject to some kind of DNS lookup > timeouts either in the application or an external resolver. > RBL lookups in general should be quite fast and cached. If > something is taking longer than 120 seconds it's probably

Re: Start an IP list to block?

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jeff Chan wrote on Fri, 10 Sep 2004 07:43:39 -0700: > If you're talking about adding resolved IP addresses to SURBLs, > no we're not going to do that. :-( > > What I'm talking about is an internal process where we keep track > of resolved IP addresses and use that to add new domains to > SURBLs

Re: [SURBL-Discuss] Start an IP list to block?

2004-09-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ryan Thompson wrote on Thu, 9 Sep 2004 15:56:19 -0600 (CST): > IIRC, .com is up to about 25M domains, and it's way, way higher than the > other gTLDs (and light years beyond ccTLDs). It's not really light years. You will have to add at least the same amount for all other TLDs. And how do you wan

Re: Moron ratware

2004-09-11 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Friday, September 10, 2004 10:05 PM -0700 Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds like a good application for a tarpit, i.e.: http://www.spamcannibal.org/ Good idea. Alas, the FC2 kernel lacks the netfilter tarpit module. Otherwise I could say something like "iptables -s nasty-spammer

Re: SPF and spammers

2004-09-11 Thread Codger
I don't think it would make any difference if the spammer listed any other servers in HIS DNS SPF records. Your server won't look at his DNS for yahoo's SPF records. That's what SPF is all about. It gives the owner of the domain name exclusive ability to say who is and is not a valid sender for

Re: Moron ratware

2004-09-11 Thread Jeff Chan
On Friday, September 10, 2004, 9:35:26 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote: > I've been getting the same bad RCPT TO from 200.232.195.50 for the last 13 > hours. I can see the same sendmail process in /var/log/maillog for that > amount of time, with "last message repeated xxx times" a lot. I tcpdump'd > th

Moron ratware

2004-09-11 Thread Kenneth Porter
I've been getting the same bad RCPT TO from 200.232.195.50 for the last 13 hours. I can see the same sendmail process in /var/log/maillog for that amount of time, with "last message repeated xxx times" a lot. I tcpdump'd the connection and see the RCPT TO and rejection over and over. (System is

Re: SPF and spammers

2004-09-11 Thread Satya
On Sep 10, 2004 at 16:52, John Hardin wrote: >A thought: now that spammers are using SPF to "legitimize" their email, >could *we* use it as a means to shut them down sooner? That's the point, as I understand it. >I.E.: get an email that passes SPF, and scores high. Look at the >relevant SPF reco

Re: SPF and spammers

2004-09-11 Thread Kelson
John Hardin wrote: A thought: now that spammers are using SPF to "legitimize" their email, could *we* use it as a means to shut them down sooner? I.E.: get an email that passes SPF, and scores high. Look at the relevant SPF record and blacklist/high-score all of the hosts it states are valid source