Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Jerome Cartagena
MailScanner does alter the Raw headers of each mail message and I can verify that each message does not get delivered to the user's INBOX until it has been processed. ~Jerome Cartagena On Feb 25, 2005, at 11:28 AM, Eric A. Hall wrote: On 2/25/2005 2:00 PM, Jerome Cartagena wrote: according to th

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Jerome Cartagena
Sorry for the confusion. The blue lines represent HAM "clean" messages. While the green lines represent SPAM. ~Jerome Cartagena On Feb 25, 2005, at 1:22 PM, jdow wrote: What do the colors mean, Jerome? {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Jerome Cartagena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok. Here are

Re: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread robert
Now that I got bayes working my next question is should I reactivate autowhitelist and autolearn? Thanks Robert

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread jdow
What do the colors mean, Jerome? {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Jerome Cartagena" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ok. Here are the graph details of SpamAssassin performance: > > > spam_clean_day: (5 min avg) > Max spam: 1304.0 msgs Average spam: 489.0 msgs Current spam: 516.0 msgs > Max c

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 2/25/2005 2:00 PM, Jerome Cartagena wrote: > according to the graphs, the number of detected spam has a steady upper > limit while the actual number of undetected spam fluctuates wildly. Can you tell if the undetected spam is getting processed (I like to tag all mail regardless of score). >

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:04 PM 2/25/2005, Jerome Cartagena wrote: The main reason I believe this is a performance issue is the strange flat line that is demonstrated by the graph. Although it concerns me that I get much more HAM than SPAM (I believe current industry standards report 80+% spam traffic), I simply c

Re: How to purge bayes?

2005-02-25 Thread Mike Burger
On the first of each month, I run "sa-learn --force-expire" to expire old entries from my bayes dbs... On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Mark wrote: > > How do I purge my bayes_* files? Especially, my bayes_journal is over 250 > MB! I like it to re-init with a fresh start. But when I "echo -n >" the > files

Re: Specific user settings on virtual user accounts

2005-02-25 Thread Rick Macdougall
Matt wrote: Hi, Is there anyway with spamassassin to have it use settings that users's have set on mail servers where the user's accounts are virtual? Hi, Mysql based prefs. Regards, Rick

Specific user settings on virtual user accounts

2005-02-25 Thread Matt
Hi, Is there anyway with spamassassin to have it use settings that users's have set on mail servers where the user's accounts are virtual?

Re: Barracuda's Spam firewall

2005-02-25 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Friday 25 February 2005 09:26 am, you wrote: > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 09:20:13AM -0800, Brook Humphrey wrote: > > making a killing on the hardware depending on what they are using on the > > software side. If it's a bunch of oss stuff on the inside then their > > development costs are next to n

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Jerome Cartagena
hello What makes you think this is a performance issue? The fact that you're getting more HAM than SPAM? or what? The main reason I believe this is a performance issue is the strange flat line that is demonstrated by the graph. Although it concerns me that I get much more HAM than SPAM (I belie

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Jerome Cartagena
Hello There are 86400 seconds in a 24-hour day, and if it takes you 10 seconds per message (high but possible with large number of remote tests) with just one process (unlikely) then you are going to be capped at 8,640 messages per day at flat-rate (nobody gets perfectly-distributed traffic patte

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:43 PM 2/25/2005, Jerome Cartagena wrote: spam_clean_day: (5 min avg) Max spam: 1304.0 msgs Average spam: 489.0 msgsCurrent spam: 516.0 msgs Max clean: 7224.0 msgs Average clean: 1309.0 msgs Current clean: 1357.0 msgs Ok, that's better. I know what I'm looking at now. What ma

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Jerome Cartagena
Ok. Here are the graph details of SpamAssassin performance: <>spam_clean_day: (5 min avg) Max spam: 1304.0 msgs Average spam: 489.0 msgs Current spam: 516.0 msgs Max clean: 7224.0 msgs Average clean: 1309.0 msgs Current clean: 1357.0 msgs <> spam_clean_week: (30 min avg) Max spam: 2064.0 msgs A

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 2/25/2005 1:28 PM, Jerome Cartagena wrote: > problem/question is that according to our statistics we are reaching > some sort of upper bound on spam scanning performance. I have attached > 2 files to help demonstrate what I am talking about. I am wondering if > we are hitting some sort of

Re: Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:28 PM 2/25/2005, Jerome Cartagena wrote: I am using spamassassin through MailScanner on a University mail server to help perform spam checks. I am using: SpamAssassin version 3.0.2 running on Perl version I have setup some scripts (spam-stats) to generate MRTG stats to help give us an i

Strange SpamAssassin Statistical Performance

2005-02-25 Thread Jerome Cartagena
I have been a member of the mail list for a couple months and have been intently watching the active discussions taking place. This is my first time posting so I'd like to greet everyone "hello" and introduce myself. I am using spamassassin through MailScanner on a University mail server to h

Re: Barracuda's Spam firewall

2005-02-25 Thread Andy Jezierski
"Gray, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/25/2005 09:58:54 AM: > Anyone care to comment on how successful/effective this particular > product is? (http://www.barracudanetworks.com) >   > There is something of a major dispute going regarding whether this > represents better value for mney

Re: Barracuda's Spam firewall

2005-02-25 Thread Michael Parker
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 09:20:13AM -0800, Brook Humphrey wrote: > making a killing on the hardware depending on what they are using on the > software side. If it's a bunch of oss stuff on the inside then their > development costs are next to nothing and they in essence are charging allot > for a

Re: Barracuda's Spam firewall

2005-02-25 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Friday 25 February 2005 07:58 am, Gray, Richard wrote: > Anyone care to comment on how successful/effective this particular product > is? (http://www.barracudanetworks.com) > > There is something of a major dispute going regarding whether this > represents better value for mney than other soluti

Re: commercial license

2005-02-25 Thread List Mail User
No city "shiraz California" No zipcode in America of 71436 +98 in the prefix for Iran; +98:711 is Shirazn Iran No resolvable reverse DNS for the domain or its name servers. Any one else try to check out the fellow who wants us to accept unresolvable domains? - [EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/

Re: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Stuart Johnston
Robert Bartlett wrote: Ok Im sorry I mis understood. I ran it the way you suggested and it did come with headers this time. I attached the results. I still feel like something else is wrong. Install Razor.

Barracuda's Spam firewall

2005-02-25 Thread Gray, Richard
Anyone care to comment on how successful/effective this particular product is? (http://www.barracudanetworks.com)   There is something of a major dispute going regarding whether this represents better value for mney than other solutions (including our own, self built service)   If any of you fi

RE: Domain of the sender does not resolve

2005-02-25 Thread Kang, Joseph S.
> -Original Message- > From: Andy Jezierski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 9:38 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Domain of the sender does not resolve > > > > Yang Xiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/25/2005 07:35:03 AM: > > > Hi all,

Re: Domain of the sender does not resolve

2005-02-25 Thread Andy Jezierski
Yang Xiao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/25/2005 07:35:03 AM: > Hi all, > I think this is a general sendmail issue, but maybe you can help me > figure out what to do. > I'm seeing mails being rejected for with "Domain of the sender does > not resolve", how do I disable the mta of rejecting these

Re: commercial license

2005-02-25 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:26 AM 2/25/2005, shabanip wrote: but i want to use it in a commercial project really i won't need to pay??!!! That depends a lot on what you mean by "commercial project". For example if your "commercial project" is something along the lines of offering spam scanning services to users for a f

Re: commercial license

2005-02-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 05:56:46PM +0330, shabanip wrote: > but i want to use it in a commercial project > really i won't need to pay??!!! Please read the LICENSE file in the distribution, or you can lookup the Apache License v2 at http://www.apache.org/licenses/ Also, please see the TRADEMARK fi

Re: commercial license

2005-02-25 Thread Joe Flowers
Payam: You need to read the license and follow it to the letter, and I encourage you to donate to them anyway. Joe shabanip wrote: but i want to use it in a commercial project really i won't need to pay??!!! Payam Shabanian shabanip -at- avapajoohesh.com AFAIK you don't need one :-D Tho, I bet

Re: commercial license

2005-02-25 Thread shabanip
but i want to use it in a commercial project really i won't need to pay??!!! Payam Shabanian shabanip -at- avapajoohesh.com > AFAIK you don't need one :-D Tho, I bet they'd be happy for a donation ;-D > Thanks, > JamesDR > > shabanip wrote: >> how can i get commercial license of spamassasian >> P

Re: Domain of the sender does not resolve

2005-02-25 Thread Yang Xiao
Well, the emails are legit and they are kind of critical too, so I'm willing to take the chance to let some spams in just so I can get those. I did verify those domains and they are unresolvable, because most of them do not expect a reply or it's just laziness on their part. But like I said, it's c

RE: Domain of the sender does not resolve

2005-02-25 Thread Sander Holthaus - Orange XL
> Hi all, > I think this is a general sendmail issue, but maybe you can > help me figure out what to do. > I'm seeing mails being rejected for with "Domain of the > sender does not resolve", how do I disable the mta of > rejecting these? will adding this to the sendmail.mc file help me? > FEATUR

Domain of the sender does not resolve

2005-02-25 Thread Yang Xiao
Hi all, I think this is a general sendmail issue, but maybe you can help me figure out what to do. I'm seeing mails being rejected for with "Domain of the sender does not resolve", how do I disable the mta of rejecting these? will adding this to the sendmail.mc file help me? FEATURE(`accept_unresol

Re: accuracy

2005-02-25 Thread List Mail User
>>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 25 01:19:46 2005 >Mailing-List: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >list-help: >list-unsubscribe: >List-Post: >List-Id: >Delivered-To: mailing list u

Re: commercial license

2005-02-25 Thread JamesDR
AFAIK you don't need one :-D Tho, I bet they'd be happy for a donation ;-D Thanks, JamesDR shabanip wrote: how can i get commercial license of spamassasian Payam Shabanian shabanip -at- avapajoohesh.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Character Sets in Subject and To/From

2005-02-25 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Freitag, 25. Februar 2005 02:41 schrieb Robert Menschel: > Hello Thomas, > > Thursday, February 24, 2005, 2:42:03 AM, you wrote: > > TA> Hello, > > TA> I got lots of messages with subjects of the form: > TA> Subject: =?utf-8?q?Wholesale Rolex Watc?= > TA> =?utf-8?q?hes?= > TA> Also mail Address

Re: How to purge bayes?

2005-02-25 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Freitag, 25. Februar 2005 02:29 schrieb Robert Menschel: > Hello Thomas, > > Thursday, February 24, 2005, 1:51:53 AM, you wrote: > >> SA has now re-created everything; only, now I have no > >> bayes_journal any more at all: > > TA> Why didn't you try sa-learn --force-expire > TA> This should red

Re: accuracy

2005-02-25 Thread Martin Hepworth
Hi I find SA very accurate - catches well over 99% of the spam and hardly ever produces a False Postive (which is more important). -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 shabanip wrote: how much accurate is spamassassin? Payam Shabanian shabanip -at

commercial license

2005-02-25 Thread shabanip
how can i get commercial license of spamassasian Payam Shabanian shabanip -at- avapajoohesh.com

accuracy

2005-02-25 Thread shabanip
how much accurate is spamassassin? Payam Shabanian shabanip -at- avapajoohesh.com

Re: Millions and Billions

2005-02-25 Thread Duncan Hill
On Thursday 24 February 2005 21:54, Stuart Johnston wrote: > I've been seeing a ton of stock spam this week, no URLs - no SURBL :( > Bayes and Razor, etc pick up on it eventually but to speed things up, I > wrote a rule. One thing that is unique about these messages is that > they replace l's with

RE: spamassassin cant detect spam

2005-02-25 Thread Meshbah Uddin Ahmed
i also disable AWL, but same result. So, what should i do??? pls suggest me. --- Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:13 PM 2/24/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > i send a mail by using another email addr which > > > content gets from GTUBE. but score is only 1.08. > > > wher

Re: SA 3.01 eventually stops noticing DNSBLs

2005-02-25 Thread Loren Wilton
>Actually a bug was already posted and a patch put into trunk. >The devs are silent and stealthy. ;) Ah! Guess I should read dev before users rather than the other way around! Loren

Re: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Loren Wilton
> Hmm.. I wonder if it is even using the bayes db at all. I keep seeing it It isn't. > find it but I dont see it actually being used. If that is the case how do I > make sure Bayes will be used for each message? debug: bayes: Not available for scanning, only 48 ham(s) in Bayes DB < 200 Make sur

Re: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Loren Wilton
Without seeing the actual spam it is hard to say how high it could score. However, getting enough ham into Bayes such that it will run will up the score considerably. Loren

Re: SA 3.01 eventually stops noticing DNSBLs

2005-02-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 07:17:16PM -0800, Loren Wilton wrote: > Since none of the devs have posted a followup on this, I think that perhaps > this is worth a bug in Bugzilla. If the analysis is valid it needs to be > fixed. If it isn't, one of the devs will probably explain why it should > work a

Re: SA 3.01 eventually stops noticing DNSBLs

2005-02-25 Thread Loren Wilton
Since none of the devs have posted a followup on this, I think that perhaps this is worth a bug in Bugzilla. If the analysis is valid it needs to be fixed. If it isn't, one of the devs will probably explain why it should work as it does. Loren > I discovered Net::DNS::Resolver::errorstr

RE: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Robert Bartlett
I went ahead and instead feed it some ham around the office :) Now it is using the bayes db, so that old spam log showed 2.99, with bayes now working it scored it a 7 Thanks again! Robert -Original Message- From: Ken Goods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:43

RE: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Robert Bartlett
Another question, since auto white list was on while the ALL_TRUSTED issue was going on, should I delete the auto white list file in the root spamassassin folder? Robert -Original Message- From: Ken Goods [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:43 PM To: users@spamas

RE: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Robert Bartlett
Thanks for the input. I found this site: http://www.fsl.com/support/index.html My question is the zipped files gives you: bayes/bayes.mutex bayes/bayes_toks bayes/bayes_seen Does that mean I have to replace what I already have or is there a way to import it? Thanks Robert -Original Messag

Re: Character Sets in Subject and To/From

2005-02-25 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Thomas, Thursday, February 24, 2005, 2:42:03 AM, you wrote: TA> Hello, TA> I got lots of messages with subjects of the form: TA> Subject: =?utf-8?q?Wholesale Rolex Watc?= TA> =?utf-8?q?hes?= TA> Also mail Addresses use this type of obfuscation. TA> My Question: How are thes character set

Re[2]: How to purge bayes?

2005-02-25 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Thomas, Thursday, February 24, 2005, 1:51:53 AM, you wrote: >> SA has now re-created everything; only, now I have no >> bayes_journal any more at all: TA> Why didn't you try sa-learn --force-expire TA> This should reduce your journal and bayes_toks. TA> Now you must train your bayes again

Re[2]: How to purge bayes?

2005-02-25 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Mark, Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 11:23:30 PM, you wrote: >> Don't purge/reinit the files, delete them. SA will recreate them >> when it tries to check Bayes next, and will update them with >> new auto-learned emails and/or your next sa-learn. M> Thanks for all your suggestions. I think

RE: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Ken Goods
Hmm.. I wonder if it is even using the bayes db at all. I keep seeing it find it but I dont see it actually being used. If that is the case how do I make sure Bayes will be used for each message? Thanks Robert >From your logs. debug: bayes: Not available for scanning, only 48 ham(s) in Baye

RE: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Robert Bartlett
Hmm.. I wonder if it is even using the bayes db at all. I keep seeing it find it but I dont see it actually being used. If that is the case how do I make sure Bayes will be used for each message? Thanks Robert -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday,

RE: Low scoring spam

2005-02-25 Thread Robert Bartlett
Ok Im sorry I mis understood. I ran it the way you suggested and it did come with headers this time. I attached the results. I still feel like something else is wrong. Thanks Robert -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:38 AM