Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread Warren Togami Jr.
On 3/6/2011 3:15 AM, Ned Slider wrote: On 06/03/11 11:46, Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I have no comment on your proposed solution. I can however point out the statistics that I see on my own spam traps. It seems that 90%+ of the spam coming from DNSWL listed hosts is Yahoo and Hotmail which are

Re: Automatically extracted SpamAssassin FAQs

2011-03-07 Thread Stefan Henß
Hi Alex, thanks for those two important points. Each question and answer is now attributed with the author, a link to the original post (apache's mailing list archives) and the date it was contributed. Regards, Stefan Am 23.02.2011 14:54, schrieb Alex: Hi, I'm currently doing research

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread Mynabbler
Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I'd agree, but users wont rebel against Yahoo unless they begin to see actual bounces to their sent mail. I don't know about your end users, but ours typically get flummoxed if mail from this well known and trusted free mail providers would not arrive to them...

[OT] Problem with mailserver and rejects

2011-03-07 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, since 2011-01-19 I have a problem because my FTTH was accidently cuted and now no one want ot be responsable including my ISP. OK, 88.168.69.36 had an rDNS to mail.tamay-dogan.net and was working perfectly and gotten never rejects except from Hotmail which use a realy weird ANTI-SPAM

Re: [OT] Problem with mailserver and rejects

2011-03-07 Thread Marcin Mirosław
W dniu 07.03.2011 13:40, Michelle Konzack pisze: Hello, since 2011-01-19 I have a problem because my FTTH was accidently cuted and now no one want ot be responsable including my ISP. OK, 88.168.69.36 had an rDNS to mail.tamay-dogan.net and was working perfectly and gotten never rejects

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread J.D. Falk
On Mar 6, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Mynabbler wrote: The amount of junkmail coming from your systems is unbelievable. How hard is it to implement a cap on the amount of messages people can send out daily with your systems. They do that. And that includes the number of Cc's and Bcc's one message

Describing AWL

2011-03-07 Thread Adam Katz
On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. It received a score of 14 because it is in the auto white-list. Shouldn't it receive a negative score?

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread Ned Slider
On 07/03/11 12:10, Mynabbler wrote: Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I'd agree, but users wont rebel against Yahoo unless they begin to see actual bounces to their sent mail. I don't know about your end users, but ours typically get flummoxed if mail from this well known and trusted free mail

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 07 Mar 2011 19:51:47 + Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: Like you, I've yet to find a reliable set of meta rules to effectively deal with this junk and invariably it turns into a game of chasing one's tail. We use an in-house DNSBL based on our reputation-reporting code

Re: Describing AWL

2011-03-07 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Adam Katz wrote: On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Br?ckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. It received a score of 14 because it is in the auto white-list. Shouldn't it receive a

Re: Open letter to Yahoo and Hotmail concerning junkmail

2011-03-07 Thread Warren Togami Jr.
On 3/7/2011 2:10 AM, Mynabbler wrote: Warren Togami Jr. wrote: I'd agree, but users wont rebel against Yahoo unless they begin to see actual bounces to their sent mail. I don't know about your end users, but ours typically get flummoxed if mail from this well known and trusted free mail

Re: Describing AWL

2011-03-07 Thread Dennis German
On 3/7/11 4:13 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, Adam Katz wrote: On 03/06/2011 11:33 AM, Karsten Br�ckelmann wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 10:51 -0800, JP Kelly wrote: I just found an incoming message which is ham but marked as spam. It received a score of 14 because it is in the auto

Re: Describing AWL

2011-03-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
I also have some thoughts about discarding hammers at the end of that document. if awl had unixtime stamp for last change time, one could add time test for at least x days where its was score aveageing, but if less then x days dont give negative for ham that would hardened it more to be

Re: [OT] Problem with mailserver and rejects

2011-03-07 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011, [UTF-8] Marcin Miros�^Baw wrote: W dniu 07.03.2011 13:40, Michelle Konzack pisze: Hello, since 2011-01-19 I have a problem because my FTTH was accidently cuted and now no one want ot be responsable including my ISP. OK, 88.168.69.36 had an rDNS to