Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread Ben Johnson
On 1/15/2013 5:22 PM, John Hardin wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: > >> >> >> On 1/15/2013 1:55 PM, John Hardin wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: >>> On 1/14/2013 8:16 PM, John Hardin wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: > > Question:

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread Ben Johnson
On 1/16/2013 2:02 AM, Tom Hendrikx wrote: > On 1/15/13 5:26 PM, Ben Johnson wrote: > >> >> In postfix's main.cf: >> > >> >> Hmm, very interesting. No, I have no greylisting in place as yet, and >> no, my userbase doesn't demand immediate delivery. I will look into >> greylisting further. > > I

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: On 1/15/2013 5:22 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: Wow! Adding several more reject_rbl_client entries to the smtpd_recipient_restrictions directive in the Postfix configuration seems to be having a tremendous impact. The am

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 1/16/2013 10:49 AM, Ben Johnson wrote: On 1/15/2013 5:22 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: Wow! Adding several more reject_rbl_client entries to the smtpd_recipient_restrictions directive in the Postfix configuration seems to be having a tremendous impact. The

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread Noel
On 1/16/2013 9:49 AM, Ben Johnson wrote: > smtpd_recipient_restrictions = > reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, spamcop has a reputation of being somewhat aggressive on blocking, and their website recommends using it in a scoring system (eg. SpamAssassin) rather than for outright blocking. Th

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread Ben Johnson
On 1/16/2013 11:00 AM, John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: > >> On 1/15/2013 5:22 PM, John Hardin wrote: >>> On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: Wow! Adding several more reject_rbl_client entries to the smtpd_recipient_restrictions directive in the Pos

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: On 1/16/2013 11:00 AM, John Hardin wrote: That's odd. That suggests you SA wasn't looking up those DNSBLs, or they would have contributed to the score. Check your trusted networks setting. One difference between SMTP-time and SA-time DNSBL checks is tha

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 1/16/2013 1:18 PM, Ben Johnson wrote: On 1/16/2013 11:00 AM, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: Is it possible that the training I've been doing over the last week or so wasn't *effective* until recently, say, after restarting some component of the mail stack? My un

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread Alex
Hi, >>> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = >>> reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, >>> reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, >>> reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org, >>> reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org, >>> reject_rbl_client dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net, >> >> Several of those are combined in

Re: Calling spamassassin directly yields very different results than calling spamassassin via amavis-new

2013-01-16 Thread Ben Johnson
On 1/16/2013 2:22 PM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 1/16/2013 1:18 PM, Ben Johnson wrote: >> >> On 1/16/2013 11:00 AM, John Hardin wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Ben Johnson wrote: >>> Is it possible that the training I've been doing over the last week or so wasn't *effective* until recentl