Re: RP_MATCHES_RCVD

2014-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 05.09.2014 um 08:40 schrieb Adi: >> i got recently a clear spam message which would have >> a score of 6.9 but RP_MATCHES_RCVD removed 1.7 points >> >> is that not a little too much? > > think so too. I set it into local.cf: > > score RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.1 thanks for confirmation i give it e

Re: RP_MATCHES_RCVD

2014-09-04 Thread Adi
Hi > i got recently a clear spam message which would have > a score of 6.9 but RP_MATCHES_RCVD removed 1.7 points > > is that not a little too much? > think so too. I set it into local.cf: score RP_MATCHES_RCVD -0.1 Best Regards

RP_MATCHES_RCVD

2014-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Hi i got recently a clear spam message which would have a score of 6.9 but RP_MATCHES_RCVD removed 1.7 points is that not a little too much? * X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=5.2, tag-level=4.5, block-level=8 * 5.0 BAYES_95 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 95 to 99% * -1.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sen

might explain the spam with large headers...

2014-09-04 Thread Miles Fidelman
--- Begin Message --- -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 - - Debian Security Advisory DSA-3019-1 secur...@debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Salvatore Bonaccorso Se

redis bayes error

2014-09-04 Thread Jason Haar
Hi there We're using the redis backend for bayes and sa-learn --dump seems to be having some difficulty... sa-learn --dump 0.000 0 3 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.000 01329618 0 non-token data: nspam 0.000 0 756350 0

Re: SA works great!

2014-09-04 Thread Noel Butler
Heh, yeah I know kids of today are so much worse then 20 years ago :) But either way, there needs to be drawn a line, so many newbies are scarred to post there newbie questions on so many lists because of people like Harry, he's got a long history of moderation and bannings, but, even I admit

Re: correct AWL on training

2014-09-04 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2014-09-05 at 01:05 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > The AWL manipulating options are rather limited, offering addition of a > high scoring positive or negative entry, or plain removal of an address. > In particular unlike Bayes, AWL doesn't work on a per-message basis. > Forgetting a si

Re: correct AWL on training

2014-09-04 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 09:11 -0600, Jesse Norell wrote: > On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 13:04 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On 03.09.14 15:13, Jesse Norell wrote: > > > Both today and in the past I've looked at some FP's that scored very > > > high on AWL. At least today I dug up the old mess

Re: A rule for Phil

2014-09-04 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 13:54 -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote: > On Sep 3, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann > wrote: > >> header __KAM_PHIL1To =~ /phil\@example\.com/i > >> header __KAM_PHIL2Subject =~ /(?:CV|Curriculum)/i > > > > Bonus points for using non-matching grouping. But maj

Re: SA works great!

2014-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.09.2014 um 19:25 schrieb Reindl Harald: >> Now as for dynamic or dialup RBLs go, UNFORTUNATELY although >> many responsible ISPs do insert the word dynamic or dialup >> in the PTRs of their dialup or dynamic pools, a great many >> still do not. Which means the RBL's that track those need >

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread Chris
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 10:59 -0700, jdow wrote: > On 2014-09-04 10:51, John Hardin wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, LuKreme wrote: > > > >> For the record, using sql for babes is considerably faster. > > > > Is that anything like "SQL for Dummies"? > > John, I was wondering if there was an SQL for bo

Re: Bayes

2014-09-04 Thread Axb
The bayes_Seen stuff never expires - it just grows, forever. You can safely delete it unless you frequently need to "forget" entries (which hardly anybody does) no need to restart MailScanner - just delete bayes_seen.* and watch it come back & grow... On 09/04/2014 10:05 PM, Kevin Miller wrot

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, Timothy Murphy wrote: I'm not certain that SA is taking account of the result of sa-learn. I'm surprised that the spam score does not seem to change significantly after many instances of almost identical messages are put through sa-learn. (1) Do you see any BAYES_* rules hi

Bayes

2014-09-04 Thread Kevin Miller
My bayes_see.pag file seems awfully large to me. Is this normal? I run a nightly expiry via cron. Here's the directory listing and output from sa-learn mx2:/etc/MailScanner/bayes # l total 3956304 drwxrws--- 2 root www4096 Sep 4 09:59 ./ drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Sep 3 13:07

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
On Thursday, September 04, 2014 11:26:01 AM LuKreme wrote: > > Is there a simple check to make sure salearn is working? > > (I get the message that "192 messages have been examined", > > and ~/.spamassassin/bayes_seen and bayes_tok are pretty large, > > 300kB and 5MB.) > For the record, using sql

Re: A rule for Phil

2014-09-04 Thread Philip Prindeville
On Sep 3, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > >> header __KAM_PHIL1To =~ /phil\@example\.com/i >> header __KAM_PHIL2Subject =~ /(?:CV|Curriculum)/i > > Bonus points for using non-matching grouping. But major deduction of > points for that entirely un-anchored case insensitive

Re: new kind of spam with bizarre custom headers getting through

2014-09-04 Thread George Johnson
David F. Skoll wrote > On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) > George Johnson < > georgejohnson@ > > wrote: > >> I'm getting another slew of these this morning, all with a variety of >> strange headers added apparently to foil spam filtering. All are >> getting through my spamassassin set up,

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread Joe Quinn
On 9/4/2014 1:51 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, LuKreme wrote: For the record, using sql for babes is considerably faster. Is that anything like "SQL for Dummies"? I've heard good things about the Derek Zoolander Center for Kids who can't SQL Good and who Wanna Learn to do Other

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 9/4/2014 2:18 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, jdow wrote: On 2014-09-04 10:51, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, LuKreme wrote: > For the record, using sql for babes is considerably faster. Is that anything like "SQL for Dummies"? John, I was wondering if there was an

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, jdow wrote: On 2014-09-04 10:51, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, LuKreme wrote: > For the record, using sql for babes is considerably faster. Is that anything like "SQL for Dummies"? John, I was wondering if there was an SQL for boys, too. SQL for Jocks, mayb

Re: new kind of spam with bizarre custom headers getting through

2014-09-04 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) George Johnson wrote: > I'm getting another slew of these this morning, all with a variety of > strange headers added apparently to foil spam filtering. All are > getting through my spamassassin set up, which is usually nearly > bulletproof. Typical headers

Re: new kind of spam with bizarre custom headers getting through

2014-09-04 Thread George Johnson
I'm getting another slew of these this morning, all with a variety of strange headers added apparently to foil spam filtering. All are getting through my spamassassin set up, which is usually nearly bulletproof. Typical headers are: Imbrue-Gaol:17169949.17169949 Manila-Cairn:

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread jdow
On 2014-09-04 10:51, John Hardin wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, LuKreme wrote: For the record, using sql for babes is considerably faster. Is that anything like "SQL for Dummies"? John, I was wondering if there was an SQL for boys, too. {O,o}

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, LuKreme wrote: For the record, using sql for babes is considerably faster. Is that anything like "SQL for Dummies"? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ jhar...@impsec.orgFALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhar...@impsec.org key: 0xB873

Re: Bayes autolearn questions

2014-09-04 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 23:50 -0400, Alex wrote: > > > I looked in the quarantined message, and according to the _TOKEN_ > > > header I've added: > > > > > > X-Spam-MyReport: Tokens: new, 47; hammy, 7; neutral, 54; spammy, 16. > > > > > > Isn't that sufficient for auto-learning this message as spa

Re: large spam messages

2014-09-04 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 9/4/2014 12:52 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Since spamassassin cannot handle large spam over 2MB in size, what can be used to handle that class of junk? Maybe some of you have got messages from 3 Bureau Monitoring. I get those probably twice daily and much as I dislike it, I will probably term

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread LuKreme
> On 04 Sep 2014, at 05:32 , Timothy Murphy wrote: > > 1) Is there a simple way of dumping email with an empty To: header? > This seems invariably to be spam, and I'm surprised SA doesn't seem > to score it highly. You may be surprised if you actually check spam and ham. > 2) Does "autolearn"

Re: SA works great!

2014-09-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.09.2014 um 19:08 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: >> there are no countermeasures for a spammer against make it >> on a RBL or use a zombie on a infected machine and get >> blocked by Dialup-RBL's before the first mail or by >> get rejected because the dynamic PTR of the infected >> zombie > > Ye

Re: SA works great!

2014-09-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 9/3/2014 11:13 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 03.09.2014 um 19:16 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: On 9/2/2014 1:52 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 02.09.2014 um 22:32 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: On 9/2/2014 4:59 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: just get a proper MTA, enable debug logging and watch the com

large spam messages

2014-09-04 Thread Jude DaShiell
Since spamassassin cannot handle large spam over 2MB in size, what can be used to handle that class of junk? Maybe some of you have got messages from 3 Bureau Monitoring. I get those probably twice daily and much as I dislike it, I will probably terminate that other internet account when time

Re: correct AWL on training

2014-09-04 Thread Jesse Norell
On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 13:04 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 03.09.14 15:13, Jesse Norell wrote: > > Both today and in the past I've looked at some FP's that scored very > >high on AWL. At least today I dug up the old messages that caused AWL > >to get out of line, and trained them as ha

Re: Spam messages bypassing SA

2014-09-04 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, Geoff Soper wrote: I've got an issue whereby spam messages seem to be somehow bypassing SA and getting into my inbox. :0fw: spamassassin.lock * < 40 | spamc -x Are the messages that bypass SA always rather large? -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.i

Re: Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, Timothy Murphy wrote: 1) Is there a simple way of dumping email with an empty To: header? If by "dump" you mean "discard", this simple test might be better done in your MTA. However, "poison pill" rules (absent certain DNSBLs) are generally discouraged. This seems inva

Dumping email with blank To: header ?

2014-09-04 Thread Timothy Murphy
1) Is there a simple way of dumping email with an empty To: header? This seems invariably to be spam, and I'm surprised SA doesn't seem to score it highly. Maybe it doesn't consider this to be a header? 2) Does "autolearn" actually remove spam with a very high score? Or does it still get marked as

Re: correct AWL on training

2014-09-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 03.09.14 15:13, Jesse Norell wrote: Both today and in the past I've looked at some FP's that scored very high on AWL. At least today I dug up the old messages that caused AWL to get out of line, and trained them as ham. AWL's scores still show the high scores on those (in this case I manual

Re: Spam messages bypassing SA

2014-09-04 Thread Axb
On 09/04/2014 12:29 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Using procmail without MTA glue is OK for many uses. I am wondering how many spamd connections you allow and if you have checked your logs? I also cannot remember but the uses of a lock file seem odd for something that can thread. Any one know

Re: Spam messages bypassing SA

2014-09-04 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Using procmail without MTA glue is OK for many uses. I am wondering how many spamd connections you allow and if you have checked your logs? I also cannot remember but the uses of a lock file seem odd for something that can thread. Any one know if that is a good idea to remove? Regards, KAM >>

Re: Spam messages bypassing SA

2014-09-04 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 04.09.14 07:51, Geoff Soper wrote: References: <1014212314.119.1394801251166.JavaMail.TPIWEB$@virus.tw.shuttle.com>,<6d30dd2234165a4fb52082d093514b87132b0...@tpiex04.shuttle.corp> <16437ca7e285c5498f501fae7eeb7d131323f...@tpiex04.shuttle.corp>,<53282f7c.9010...@alphaworks.co.uk> <16437ca7e285