Re: Bayes scoring and role accounts

2016-11-21 Thread Joe Quinn
On 11/21/2016 11:27 AM, Karl Denninger wrote: On 11/21/2016 10:12, Karl Denninger wrote: I'm using SpamAssassin on a system that uses Postfix for MTA and Dovecot for handling final delivery. Spamassassin is being called via Postfix through spamd with: # # Spam Assassin bayesian filter updat

Re: Bayes scoring and role accounts

2016-11-21 Thread Karl Denninger
On 11/21/2016 10:12, Karl Denninger wrote: > I'm using SpamAssassin on a system that uses Postfix for MTA and > Dovecot for handling final delivery. Spamassassin is being called via > Postfix through spamd with: > > # > # Spam Assassin bayesian filter updaters > # > sa-spam unix- n

Bayes scoring and role accounts

2016-11-21 Thread Karl Denninger
I'm using SpamAssassin on a system that uses Postfix for MTA and Dovecot for handling final delivery. Spamassassin is being called via Postfix through spamd with: # # Spam Assassin bayesian filter updaters # sa-spam unix- n n - - pipe user=spamd:spamd argv=/usr/l

Re: Bayes scoring priority

2013-06-24 Thread RW
On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:29:20 -0600 Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > Hi all, > My Bayes scores are set to the default, i.e. Bayes_99 adds 3.5 points > (I have network tests enabled). I'm considering just making this > 5.0, so ANYTHING with Bayes_99 is automatically spam. I looked > through my inbox

Re: Bayes scoring priority

2013-06-24 Thread Ben Johnson
On 6/24/2013 1:29 PM, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > Has anyone modified their Bayes scoring priority, and if so, what were > your experiences? What scores did you assign? This has been discussed at length; perhaps start with this archived topic: http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nab

Bayes scoring priority

2013-06-24 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
this would still require some other rules to pop before getting counted as spam, but would take care of all of these FNs with scores of 4+ (but not the 3+ ones, though these are much more rare). Has anyone modified their Bayes scoring priority, and if so, what were your experiences? W

Re: Bayes scoring

2010-08-02 Thread RW
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 05:51:25 -0700 (PDT) andrij wrote: > How many tokens are used by the SA's bayes classifier to > calculate the probability that the mail is spam/ham? It varies. It uses all the tokens above a minimum token strength, up to a maximum of 150.

Re: Bayes scoring

2010-08-02 Thread andrij
I cannot, I should ask the owner of the e-mails. I tried with databases of spam and ham e-mails. What is interesting it happened only to the database of ham emails. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Bayes-scoring-tp29324885p29325278.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Bayes scoring

2010-08-02 Thread Daniel Lemke
raw example of one of those mails, not scored by bayes? Daniel -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Bayes-scoring-tp29324885p29324968.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Bayes scoring

2010-08-02 Thread andrij
context: http://old.nabble.com/Bayes-scoring-tp29324885p29324885.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Possible to leave Bayes scoring intact, but not have it count towards total spamscore?

2006-01-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 03:11:50PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did I overlook something in the documentation or ain't it possible > at all without setting all those BAYES_* scores to 0? It's not possible since the BAYES_* rules have no special meaning to SpamAssassin. You wouldn't want to s

Re: Possible to leave Bayes scoring intact, but not have it count towards total spamscore?

2006-01-25 Thread Matthias Keller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I want to throw the newly built Bayes DB onto our mailservers, but for testing purposes I do not want any Bayes score to influence the final spamscore, but nevertheless I want it to become visible in the spam_report. Basically I want to see how often Bayes mat

Possible to leave Bayes scoring intact, but not have it count towards total spamscore?

2006-01-25 Thread srunschke
Hi all, I want to throw the newly built Bayes DB onto our mailservers, but for testing purposes I do not want any Bayes score to influence the final spamscore, but nevertheless I want it to become visible in the spam_report. Basically I want to see how often Bayes matches ham/spam, without it hav

Re: I don't understand the Bayes scoring logic

2005-03-06 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:08 PM 3/5/2005, Nigel Wilkinson wrote: Why does a 99-100% probability score less than an 80-95% probability??? This is more-or-less a FAQ in SA now. Rule scores in SA are not in any way linear. The scores are not assigned based on performance, they're based on tuning the scores of ALL of th

Re: I don't understand the Bayes scoring logic

2005-03-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Nigel Wilkinson wrote: > Why does a 99-100% probability score less than an 80-95% probability??? Because the Bayes engine is not the only factor in classifying a message as spam. Along with that all of the other rules are factored into it too. A message which is 99-100% probability is going to t

I don't understand the Bayes scoring logic

2005-03-06 Thread Nigel Wilkinson
Hi folks can anyone explain the logic behind this. Various spam gets tagged with the Bayes check but as follows * 0.4 BAYES_60 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 60 to 80% * [score: 0.6343] * 2.1 BAYES_80 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 80 to 95% * [sc

Re: Bayes scoring weirdness?

2004-09-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:15 PM 9/7/2004, Justin Mason wrote: BTW the idea of USER_IN_BLACKLIST being ignored for bayes is so that if a user screws up and accidentally BLs a ham source, it won't pollute Bayes as well. I think in 3.0.0 we've added more logic so that it won't be learned *at all* in that situation -- not

RE: Bayes scoring weirdness?

2004-09-07 Thread Chris Blaise
al Message- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 2:41 PM To: Chris Blaise Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Bayes scoring weirdness? On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:32:42PM -0600, Chris Blaise wrote: > The rules were ALL_TRUSTED,MIS

Re: Bayes scoring weirdness?

2004-09-07 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: > On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:32:42PM -0600, Chris Blaise wrote: > > The rules were ALL_TRUSTED,MISSING_DATE,USER_IN_BLACKLIST and I > > think since "ALL_TRUSTED" is a negative value. > > > > Am I missing something abou

Re: Bayes scoring weirdness?

2004-09-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:32:42PM -0600, Chris Blaise wrote: > The rules were ALL_TRUSTED,MISSING_DATE,USER_IN_BLACKLIST and I > think since "ALL_TRUSTED" is a negative value. > > Am I missing something about how auto-learn should consider this? > > Is there a reason why it d

Bayes scoring weirdness?

2004-09-07 Thread Chris Blaise
In experimenting with white/blacklists and bayes, I got a message that was in a blacklist but learned as ham! 2004 Sep 7 14:22:02 server spamd[8949]: identified spam (197.2/5.0) for nobody:8 in 0.6 seconds, 191 bytes. 2004 Sep 7 14:22:02 server spamd[8949]: logmsg: result: Y 197 - ALL_T

Re: Bayes scoring question

2004-09-05 Thread Tom Meunier
Theodore Heise wrote: This seems counterintuitive to me, based on my understanding of probability and statistics (which is admitedly just enough to be dangerous). Is this a result of some interaction? For example a message that meets BAYES_99 is also more likely to trigger some network tests, so

Bayes scoring question

2004-09-05 Thread Theodore Heise
Hi all, This may have been addressed previously, but I couldn't find it in the list archives. I was looking over scores of my newly installed 3.0.0-rc2 and noticed that for fourth column[1] the BAYES_95 score is higher than BAYES_99. score BAYES_00 0 0 -1.665 -2.599 score BAYES_