Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Dan
Thanks for the follow-ups guys, its much appreciated. I'm building and testing furiously :) On Apr 11, 2006, at 6:05, Matt Kettler wrote: Dan wrote: Follow up question (even more odd than weight limits): I want to flag all messages as spam, then configure various rules as exceptions, ma

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Matt Kettler
Dan wrote: > Follow up question (even more odd than weight limits): > > I want to flag all messages as spam, then configure various rules as > exceptions, marking them as ham. But how do I universally mark > messages one way in SpamAssassin and then unmark them in the other? > > I realize this is

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> I want to flag all messages as spam, then configure various rules as > exceptions, marking them as ham. But how do I universally mark > messages one way in SpamAssassin and then unmark them in the other? > > I realize this is unorthodox, but I would appreciate any suggestions. >From experience

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> So you're saying 307 integers and 15 decimals?: 307 total digits if you happen to have the decimal point on the right. The first 15 of those will be non-zero, all the rest will be zero. Or alternately 280+ leading zeros and 15 trailing digits if you go to the right of the decimal point.

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-11 Thread Loren Wilton
> The total range for the mantissa of a double-precision float is 52-bits, with 1 > bit for sign. This means that the range between your most significant and least Minor quibble: the number of mantissa bits stored is 52, but as the mantissa is assumed to be normalized except in some very special c

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Dan wrote: > Follow up question (even more odd than weight limits): > > I want to flag all messages as spam, then configure various rules as > exceptions, marking them as ham. But how do I universally mark > messages one way in SpamAssassin and then unmark them in the other? > > I realize this is

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-10 Thread Dan
Follow up question (even more odd than weight limits): I want to flag all messages as spam, then configure various rules as exceptions, marking them as ham. But how do I universally mark messages one way in SpamAssassin and then unmark them in the other? I realize this is unorthodox, but I

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-10 Thread Dan
No, I'm saying 15 digits. That's *total* combined between integer and decimal places. However, because the floating point is stored in a scientific notation, you can add a bunch of extra zeros to push those 15 digits around. So you can have: (15 digits) + (307 zeros).0 or 0.(307 zeros) +

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Dan wrote: >> The total range for the mantissa of a double-precision float is >> 52-bits, with 1 >> bit for sign. This means that the range between your most significant >> and least >> significant digit of the final summed answer cannot be greater than >> 2^51, or >> you'll loose precision. >> >>

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-10 Thread Dan
The total range for the mantissa of a double-precision float is 52- bits, with 1 bit for sign. This means that the range between your most significant and least significant digit of the final summed answer cannot be greater than 2^51, or you'll loose precision. The total range for the expone

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-10 Thread Matt Kettler
Dan wrote: > Good approach Herb, thanks > > > To anyone: > > 1) What is the highest weight value (in number of digits) supported by > SpamAssassin? > > 2) What is the smallest weigh value (in decimal places) supported by > SpamAssassin? In current practice, the range is 1000 to 0.0001. The cod

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-10 Thread Dan
Good approach Herb, thanks To anyone: 1) What is the highest weight value (in number of digits) supported by SpamAssassin? 2) What is the smallest weigh value (in decimal places) supported by SpamAssassin? These might look like: 10 .01 Thanks, Dan

RE: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-09 Thread Herb Martin
Dan wrote: > Thanks guys, > > There isn't a lot of description of this because most people don't > > want to > > do this - most f the value of SA comes in the rules packaged with > > it that > > have been tested to hit current spam. > Must be to many years of building legos, one brick at a ti

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-09 Thread Dan
Thanks guys, There isn't a lot of description of this because most people don't want to do this - most f the value of SA comes in the rules packaged with it that have been tested to hit current spam. The main reason why you're finding little documentation about "starting from the groun

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-09 Thread Matt Kettler
Dan wrote: > Newbie here, > > I've filtered email for years with Declude and am adding SpamAssassin > to my arsenal. I want to build something from scratch and am having > problems getting started. Before we get further: I'd really suggest starting off playing with SA's default setup for a while,

Re: Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-09 Thread Loren Wilton
There isn't a lot of description of this because most people don't want to do this - most f the value of SA comes in the rules packaged with it that have been tested to hit current spam. That said, you probably these days need an init.pre to enable som plugins and a local.cf with some minimal conf

Learning SpamAssassin

2006-04-09 Thread Dan
Newbie here, I've filtered email for years with Declude and am adding SpamAssassin to my arsenal. I want to build something from scratch and am having problems getting started. Thing is, all the guides (books, manual, web pages) seem to be geared toward using the standard configuration