Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 12:37 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Can you ask the sender to generate samples? No sensitive content, and > > the email address most likely can be masked by you. Just be sure to not > > invalide any other data. Might require sending at different ti

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 14:43 +0200, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > > Sorry for the ranting. I didn't mean to insult Raymond or anyone else > > knowing the problem but not providing samples. > > I didnt take it up as a insult or anything. I just confirmed this is a > generic issue, next time i'll be s

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread LuKreme
On 22-May-2009, at 03:25, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: If anyone wants to file a bug go ahead. I wont since people seem to like loosing regular mail, lets leave it in. Ah, the old "I'd rather whine than do anything" gambit. Good luck with that. -- At 20:43 the dome of St. Elvis Cathedral sh

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Honestly, I am sure I don't know /all/ he does for the community. To submit a bug of that type, you need to have access to samples, and per policy, he may not. He dumped it on others to provide the evidence, in "Raymondish" wording... but trust me, he's more that OK. Sorry for the rant

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 13:31 +0200, Yet Another Ninja wrote: > On 5/22/2009 1:19 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Awesome attitude, thank you very much! > Seems you don't know Raymond is and what he does for "the community", > pretty silently :-) Honestly, I am sure I don't know /all/ he does

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Ned Slider
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:54 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: Hi, I'm seeing regular FPs against FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK from one particular (legitimate) sender, and not really understanding the rule it's difficult to understand why or how to go about fixing it. Hmm, sounds fam

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/22/2009 1:19 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 11:25 +0200, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: There are new versions out that hit this rule and it should not. [...] If anyone wants to file a bug go ahead. I wont since people seem to like loosing regular mail, lets leave it in.

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 11:25 +0200, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > There are new versions out that hit this rule and it should not. [...] > If anyone wants to file a bug go ahead. I wont since people seem to like > loosing regular mail, lets leave it in. Awesome attitude, thank you very much! So th

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Michael Scheidell
Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: What i dont understand, i mean, i did the exact same thing. Why isnt it either removed from SA Update or downscored??? to downscore on you your box, just add the lower score to your local.cf and restart spamd/amavisd. as to why SA doesn't do it? don't know. --

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! Hmm, sounds familiar. we got so many that we set the score to 0.001 maybe a year ago.. I thinks it a combination of outlook xp and exchange 2003+ What i dont understand, i mean, i did the exact same thing. Why isnt it either removed from SA Update or downscored??? Because for many p

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread LuKreme
On May 22, 2009, at 3:00, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: I'm seeing regular FPs against FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK from one particular (legitimate) sender, and not really understanding the rule it's difficult to understand why or how to go about fixing it. Hmm, sounds familiar. we got so many that w

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 11:00 +0200, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: > > we got so many that we set the score to 0.001 maybe a year ago.. I thinks > > it > > a combination of outlook xp and exchange 2003+ > > What i dont understand, i mean, i did the exact same thing. Why isnt it > either removed from

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-22 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! I'm seeing regular FPs against FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK from one particular (legitimate) sender, and not really understanding the rule it's difficult to understand why or how to go about fixing it. Hmm, sounds familiar. we got so many that we set the score to 0.001 maybe a year ago.. I think

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-21 Thread Michael Scheidell
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:54 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: Hi, I'm seeing regular FPs against FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK from one particular (legitimate) sender, and not really understanding the rule it's difficult to understand why or how to go about fixing it. Hmm,

Re: Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-21 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 20:54 +0100, Ned Slider wrote: > Hi, > > I'm seeing regular FPs against FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK from one particular > (legitimate) sender, and not really understanding the rule it's > difficult to understand why or how to go about fixing it. Hmm, sounds familiar. > Unfortunate

Possible FPs on FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK

2009-05-21 Thread Ned Slider
Hi, I'm seeing regular FPs against FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK from one particular (legitimate) sender, and not really understanding the rule it's difficult to understand why or how to go about fixing it. Unfortunately I'm not in a position to openly post copies to the net, so wondered if I could be