Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Cami
Rob McEwen wrote: I've got an idea for faster rDNS lookups. Before I present the solution. Here is the problem... ...basically, rDNS checks are expensive. They sometimes take a few seconds when done in real time and depend on the timeliness and of other people's DNS servers. This 1-5 (or more)

RE: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Rob McEwen
Cami asked Exactly how is this faster than using a dns caching nameserver? As I mentioned, (1) artificially long caching times (well beyond TTL) can be set for both negative and positive return and (2) once cached, the lookup is not dependent on another 3rd party server which might have been

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Cami
Rob McEwen wrote: Cami wrote Exactly how is this faster than using a dns caching nameserver? As I mentioned, (1) artificially long caching times (well beyond TTL) can be set for both negative and positive return and (2) once cached, the lookup is not dependent on another 3rd party server

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Cami
Rob McEwen wrote: Please understand, I'm only proposing this as an alternative idea for checking to see if a sending server's IP address has proper rDNS... NOT any other type of DNS lookups. Also, I don't have stats on this, but I know that most mail is spam and I know that MUCH of this spam

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
Cami said: It used to be 80% but Postfix+policyd has reduced it to barely anything The fact that you use graylisting as a means of eliminating spam as a 1st line of defense is makes your 9% of incoming mail is spam as VERY anecdotal for the purposes of this discussion. Please, don't confuse

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread List Mail User
... Rob McEwen wrote: I've got an idea for faster rDNS lookups. Before I present the solution. Here is the problem... ...basically, rDNS checks are expensive. They sometimes take a few seconds when done in real time and depend on the timeliness and of other people's DNS servers. This 1-5

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread Rob McEwen (PowerView Systems)
And for spam domains, IP-jumping is common... ...for well run, legitimate domains, what you say is indeed correct Overall, I think you actually make the case FOR my idea of artifically long cacheing of rDNS checks. And, I think my earlier messages covered the various scenarios. the load on the

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread List Mail User
And for spam domains, IP-jumping is common... ...for well run, legitimate domains, what you say is indeed correct Overall, I think you actually make the case FOR my idea of artifically long cacheing of rDNS checks. And, I think my earlier messages covered the various scenarios. the load on the

Re: Faster rDNS lookups

2005-08-13 Thread mouss
Rob McEwen wrote: I've got an idea for faster rDNS lookups. Before I present the solution. Here is the problem... ...basically, rDNS checks are expensive. They sometimes take a few seconds when done in real time and depend on the timeliness and of other people's DNS servers. This 1-5 (or more)