RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-27 Thread email builder
But again, since almost no legitimate email is ever greylisted only almost nothing DESIRABLE EVER gets delayed. So you ONLY greylist what the RBLs tell you is on their list? Maybe I need to go back and re-read your original email, which I skimmed perhaps too lightly... because even back in

RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-27 Thread email builder
--- email builder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But again, since almost no legitimate email is ever greylisted only almost nothing DESIRABLE EVER gets delayed. So you ONLY greylist what the RBLs tell you is on their list? Maybe I need to go back and re-read your original email, which I

RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-27 Thread Herb Martin
-Original Message- From: email builder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:54 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: RE: best of RBLs without the FPs --- email builder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But again, since almost no legitimate email is ever

Re: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-25 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Samstag, 24. September 2005 19:26 Herb Martin wrote: SA threshold exceeded will cause a non-greylisted message to be sent through the greylist process.  This can happen at most once per message (even when resent) but normally happens on only a small percentages since everything that was

RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-24 Thread Herb Martin
From: Rob McEwen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] In fact, a good example of positive solutions would be Herb Martin's recent post about using Greylisting and RBLs together where the message is not blocked outright based on RBLs... but, rather, the RBL triggers the greylisting... that was a

Re: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-24 Thread Michael Monnerie
On Samstag, 24. September 2005 17:48 Herb Martin wrote: But again, since almost no legitimate email is ever greylisted only almost nothing DESIRABLE EVER gets delayed.   That depends on your setup. Here, we basically use: - checks on HELO, SPF, RBL, etc - 550 reject - checks on SA - accept but

RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-24 Thread Herb Martin
From: Michael Monnerie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Samstag, 24. September 2005 17:48 Herb Martin wrote: But again, since almost no legitimate email is ever greylisted only almost nothing DESIRABLE EVER gets delayed. That depends on your setup. Here, we basically use: - checks on HELO,

RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-24 Thread Rob McEwen
Herb asked: What makes you uncomfortable? There really are only two issues: 1) Delay of legitimage email 2) Broken legitimate servers that won't resend Herb, Many web page event-driven e-mails may not have a re-try mechanism. And I think that some legit opt-in lists and newsletters also might

RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-24 Thread Rob McEwen
Michael Monnerie said: But as for Rob's way of doing things: Again this involves manual whitelists. It would be nice if there were automated things, as manual stuff tends to be error prone, outdated and not updated :-( Interestingly, just this evening, a legit message sent to my server was

RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-24 Thread Herb Martin
Herb asked: What makes you uncomfortable? There really are only two issues: 1) Delay of legitimate email 2) Broken legitimate servers that won't resend Herb, Many web page event-driven e-mails may not have a re-try mechanism. And I think that some legit opt-in lists and newsletters

RE: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-24 Thread Herb Martin
But I have solved this problem forevermore by placing the following override in my DNS server: // American Express ; zone 34.32.193.list.dsbl.org in { type master; notify no; file master/null.zone; }; zone 34.32.193.sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org in { type master; notify no; file

Re: best of RBLs without the FPs

2005-09-24 Thread John Rudd
On Sep 24, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Rob McEwen wrote: Herb asked: What makes you uncomfortable? There really are only two issues: 1) Delay of legitimage email 2) Broken legitimate servers that won't resend Herb, Many web page event-driven e-mails may not have a re-try mechanism. Those web