Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-16 Thread Matt Kettler
Well, that one failed and it wasn't the list-posted copy. That was my direct email. And the HELO *should* pass due to the inclusion of IP address. It looks like you've got a broken trust path and SA is checking the wrong Received: header. Is your mailserver NATed? Do you have

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-16 Thread Steve Martin
I still have something strange going on that I can't figure out. When your mail came this morning, it did NOT have SPF_PASS, but if I run things manually now, I get it. Here is what I'm seeing when I run things manually now... The HELO fails like this... [5056] dbg: spf: checking HELO

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-16 Thread Steve Martin
Running spamd with --debug=spf I'm getting some clues In the spamd log, I'm seeing... Aug 16 09:16:37 xx spamassassin[6390]: spf: cannot get Envelope- From, cannot use SPF But, after I receive the email and run it through, it has no problem finding Envelope-From. Anyone know what may

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-16 Thread Steve Martin
That was it. I had for some reason has removed the R flag in the postfix filter that was sending the mail to spamc. That of course broke spf's ability to do lookups on Return-Path. On Aug 16, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Steve Martin wrote: Running spamd with --debug=spf I'm getting some clues In

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-15 Thread Matt Kettler
Steve Martin wrote: The first thing I've noticed after running 3.1pre1 for a few days is that I'm getting much less bayes auto learning of ham due to the fact that most of my messages from mailings lists fail SPF tests and get penalized 2.4-2.6 points or so for it. They still aren't marked

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-15 Thread List Mail User
... The first thing I've noticed after running 3.1pre1 for a few days is that I'm getting much less bayes auto learning of ham due to the fact that most of my messages from mailings lists fail SPF tests and get penalized 2.4-2.6 points or so for it. They still aren't marked as spam, but

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-15 Thread Steve Martin
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Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-15 Thread Steve Martin
Not for me... * -6.0 USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO User is listed in 'whitelist_to' * 2.4 SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL SPF: HELO does not match SPF record (softfail) * [SPF failed: ] * -1.3 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list That is from your message... On Aug 15, 2005, at 6:17 PM, List

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-15 Thread Steve Martin
Looks like I was having a DNS problem. Not sure why it would turn into SPF_FAIL's, though since I think it would fail to get the SPF record and at that point shouldn't it not run SPF rules? I reran some of the messages that had been failing and they are fine now. On Aug 15, 2005, at

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-15 Thread List Mail User
... Not for me... * -6.0 USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO User is listed in 'whitelist_to' * 2.4 SPF_HELO_SOFTFAIL SPF: HELO does not match SPF record (softfail) * [SPF failed: ] * -1.3 AWL AWL: From: address is in the auto white-list That is from your message... On Aug 15, 2005, at 6:17 PM,

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-15 Thread Steve Martin
I replied elsewhere, but I was having some strange DNS problems today that probably caused every other lookup to fail. I THINK that was what was causing it. I'll watch for a while... On Aug 15, 2005, at 8:12 PM, List Mail User wrote: ... Not for me... * -6.0 USER_IN_WHITELIST_TO User is

Re: First 3.1 observation

2005-08-15 Thread hamann . w
Hi, on a well-behaved mailing list sends all mails are sent by Mr. Majordomo or such, and they should work well. Less well-behaved ones have the list server send mail as the originating user :( I installed something on a MTA a while ago which would ask senders from a local domain to