Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-16 Thread Chris Barnes
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 10:05 -0500, Chris Barnes wrote: Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: The AWL score for this message is minimal (one can tell by calculating the stock rules' scores without it). Your problem here is BAYES_00 and RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED. BAYES_00

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-10 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ricardo Kleemann wrote on Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:31:33 -0700: A question about AWL... addresses that get into AWL for score averaging, if we run sa-learn on messages, will the senders of those messages be then removed from AWL consideration? No, there is no connection. I also get confused

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-10 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Thank you. - Original Message - From: Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:10 AM Subject: Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00 Ricardo Kleemann wrote on Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:31:33 -0700: A question about AWL... addresses

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-10 Thread RW
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:15:08 -0700 Ricardo Kleemann rica...@americasnet.com wrote: Ok. ;-) so how exactly does AWL work and how is its score determined? http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=awl+spamassassinl=1

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-10 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ricardo Kleemann wrote on Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:15:08 -0700: so how exactly does AWL work and how is its score determined? why not consult the wiki first? http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/AutoWhitelist Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services:

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-10 Thread Chris Barnes
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Chris Barnes wrote on Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:06:10 -0500: I have purged my bayes db and issued sa-learn to rebuild it. How? sa-learn --clear But the Bayes_00 score persists. Are you learning those very messages as spam? I find that just learning a message as spam

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-10 Thread Chris Barnes
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: The AWL score for this message is minimal (one can tell by calculating the stock rules' scores without it). Your problem here is BAYES_00 and RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED. BAYES_00 means your Bayes DB is pretty skewed. You should train sa-learn on these messages. I do. Daily.

trusted_networks (was: Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00)

2009-03-10 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 10:05 -0500, Chris Barnes wrote: Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: The AWL score for this message is minimal (one can tell by calculating the stock rules' scores without it). Your problem here is BAYES_00 and RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED. BAYES_00 means your Bayes DB is pretty

Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-09 Thread Chris Barnes
I read through a BUNCH of the previous posts that seemed similar, but never really saw how to go about fixing this sort of problem. I am getting a BUNCH of spam messages which are coming in with header information similar to this: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-09 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Chris Barnes wrote on Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:06:10 -0500: I have purged my bayes db and issued sa-learn to rebuild it. How? But the Bayes_00 score persists. Are you learning those very messages as spam? I find that just learning a message as spam *once* gives it a BAYES_99 on the next scan.

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-09 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Chris Barnes wrote on Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:06:10 -0500: Q1: how did these addresses (which are all pretty obviously spam and none of which are in our own domain) get into the AWL to begin with? They came in and were delivered. You don't know what AWL

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-09 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 12:06 -0500, Chris Barnes wrote: I read through a BUNCH of the previous posts that seemed similar, but never really saw how to go about fixing this sort of problem. I am getting a BUNCH of spam messages which are coming in with header information similar to this:

Re: Spam with AWL and Bayes00

2009-03-09 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hello John, Q1: how did these addresses (which are all pretty obviously spam and none of which are in our own domain) get into the AWL to begin with? They came in and were delivered. You don't know what AWL thinks about them. Why do you think it should only take mail from your domain? Chris