Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-24 Thread David Baron
On Wednesday 25 July 2007, Bob Proulx wrote: > David Baron wrote: > > >   /etc/rc0.d/S35networking > > >   /etc/rc6.d/S35networking > > >   /etc/rcS.d/S40networking > > > > Is not the final run level 5. > > The default runlevel is 2 in Debian. Unless otherwise modified all > run levels have the sa

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-24 Thread Bob Proulx
David Baron wrote: > >   /etc/rc0.d/S35networking > >   /etc/rc6.d/S35networking > >   /etc/rcS.d/S40networking > > Is not the final run level 5. The default runlevel is 2 in Debian. Unless otherwise modified all run levels have the same configuration and are identical to each other in Debian.

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-24 Thread David Baron
On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Bob Proulx wrote: > Those init.d files are not stock Debian.  They have been modified. > > However since the rc0.d and rcS.d files still exists with low numbers > then networking will start very early.  Those S99 files are simply red > herrings for you distracting you from

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-24 Thread Bob Proulx
David Baron wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > >I have: > > >/etc/rc0.d/S35networking > > >/etc/rc2.d/S99networking > > >/etc/rc3.d/S99networking > > >/etc/rc5.d/S99networking > > >/etc/rc6.d/S35networking > > >/etc/rcS.d/S40networking > > > > > >S99 is what is being hit. > > > > And I would call ANY

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-24 Thread David Baron
On Tuesday 24 July 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 24 July 2007, David Baron wrote: > >> >> Humm, with my lashup here that Joanne helped me setup, > >> >> S78spamassassin starts a few copies of spamd, and fetchmail is > >> >> started much later in S99local. Its fetchmail that calls procmail

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 24 July 2007, David Baron wrote: >> >> Humm, with my lashup here that Joanne helped me setup, S78spamassassin >> >> starts a few copies of spamd, and fetchmail is started much later in >> >> S99local. Its fetchmail that calls procmail, and its procmail that >> >> calls the spamd's, so t

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-24 Thread David Baron
>> >Problem is that the S78 will start spamassassin but that start does not >> >necessarily get a valid rule-set. For that, the internet connection must >> > be up at the time. >> >> And why would it not be when the network start is S10network? > >I have: >/etc/rc0.d/S35networking >/etc/rc2.d/S99ne

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-24 Thread David Baron
> >> Humm, with my lashup here that Joanne helped me setup, S78spamassassin > >> starts a few copies of spamd, and fetchmail is started much later in > >> S99local. Its fetchmail that calls procmail, and its procmail that > >> calls the spamd's, so there is no time that SA can be bypassed. > >> >

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-23 Thread Kris Deugau
David Baron wrote: Problem is that the S78 will start spamassassin but that start does not necessarily get a valid rule-set. This is the bit puzzling me: Why must sa-update complete sucessfully for spamd to start? The default SA rules should be shipped in the package, and be placed in (typi

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 July 2007, David Baron wrote: >On Monday 23 July 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Monday 23 July 2007, David Baron wrote: [...] >> Humm, with my lashup here that Joanne helped me setup, S78spamassassin >> starts a few copies of spamd, and fetchmail is started much later in >> S99local.

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-23 Thread David Baron
On Monday 23 July 2007, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 23 July 2007, David Baron wrote: > >>I mean the obvious stuff like "viagra" and such. Usually the spam is > >> caught but sporadically it does get through. > >> > >>What is happening. > > > >Simply, there are no X-Spam headers on these (and no

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 July 2007, David Baron wrote: >>I mean the obvious stuff like "viagra" and such. Usually the spam is caught >>but sporadically it does get through. >> >>What is happening. > >Simply, there are no X-Spam headers on these (and none or some of the "ham" > as well). In other words, message

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-22 Thread David Baron
>I mean the obvious stuff like "viagra" and such. Usually the spam is caught >but sporadically it does get through. >What is happening. Simply, there are no X-Spam headers on these (and none or some of the "ham" as well). In other words, messages are being delivered before sa is running! Origi

Re: Stuff getting through

2007-07-19 Thread Matt Kettler
David Baron wrote: > I mean the obvious stuff like "viagra" and such. Usually the spam is caught > but sporadically it does get through. > > What is happening. > > There are dozens of possible causes. What version of SA are you using? Are the ones that are going through image or PDF based? D

Stuff getting through

2007-07-18 Thread David Baron
I mean the obvious stuff like "viagra" and such. Usually the spam is caught but sporadically it does get through. What is happening.