Re: Trouble with bayes poisoning spam

2012-12-02 Thread Alex
Hi, Actually, that's a Snowshoe IP. Which, on balance, can be a good thing, slaying-wise. :) You mean that it's more likely to be added to the SBL with the other IPs in the same range sooner? Almost four years ago, I posted my approach to snowshoe slaying:

re: Trouble with bayes poisoning spam

2012-11-30 Thread Chip M.
Hi Alex! Actually, that's a Snowshoe IP. Which, on balance, can be a good thing, slaying-wise. :) Almost four years ago, I posted my approach to snowshoe slaying: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/spamassassin-users/200902.mbox/%3c20090204.0...@iowahoneypot.com%3e It has

Re: Trouble with bayes poisoning spam

2012-11-29 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Alex wrote: I have an example of spam that I just can't reliably detect: http://pastebin.com/YuuLuA1x I was just wondering if there was something else that could be triggered on in the header to catch these sooner? I'm assuming the sending IP part of a botnet? I'm using

The trouble with Bayes

2005-05-06 Thread Paul Boven
Hi everyone, Here are some observations on using Bayes and autolearning I would like to share, and have your input on. Autolearning is turining out to be more trouble than it's worth. Although it helps the system to get to know the ham we send and get, and learn some of the spams on its own,

Re: The trouble with Bayes

2005-05-06 Thread Mike Grice
On Fri, 2005-05-06 at 14:28 +0200, Paul Boven wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some observations on using Bayes and autolearning I would like to share, and have your input on. Autolearning is turining out to be more trouble than it's worth. Although it helps the system to get to know the

Re: The trouble with Bayes

2005-05-06 Thread James R
Paul Boven wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some observations on using Bayes and autolearning I would like to share, and have your input on. Autolearning is turining out to be more trouble than it's worth. Although it helps the system to get to know the ham we send and get, and learn some of the

Re: The trouble with Bayes

2005-05-06 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Paul Boven wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some observations on using Bayes and autolearning I would like to share, and have your input on. Okay! Some suggestions on improving the performance of the Bayes system: 1.) Messages that have been manually submitted should have a higher 'weight' in the

Re: The trouble with Bayes

2005-05-06 Thread Jim Maul
Paul Boven wrote: Hi everyone, Here are some observations on using Bayes and autolearning I would like to share, and have your input on. Autolearning is turining out to be more trouble than it's worth. Although it helps the system to get to know the ham we send and get, and learn some of the

Re: The trouble with Bayes

2005-05-06 Thread Paul Boven
Hi Jim, Jim Maul wrote: Paul Boven wrote: Bayes is a very powerfull system, especially for recognising site-specific ham. But at this moment, apx. 30% of the spam that slips trough my filter has 'autolearn=ham' set. And another 60% of the spam slipping trough has a negative Bayes score to help

Re: The trouble with Bayes

2005-05-06 Thread Paul Boven
mailbox is on the system where you run SpamAssassin and you can retrain from the commandline. That's only a small subset of all email-users though. Once the setup gets a bit more complicated, involves IMAP servers, forwarding etc., you get in trouble. 4.) The Bayes subsystem should store

Re: The trouble with Bayes

2005-05-06 Thread Paul Boven
Hi Kevin, everyone, Kevin Peuhkurinen wrote: Paul Boven wrote: but my goal is to find a way of doing this that is independent of the rest of the mail-system, and can then become an integral part of SA. Any suggestions on how to do this? One of SA's strengths is that it is designed to be a