Re: T5: @ApplicationState is misleading - voters wanted!

2008-11-06 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
Glad we agree. The advantage of all the annotations, naming conventions and meta programming is that you can gracefully evolve (away from stupid names, etc.). On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:55 AM, Geoff Callender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Howard, > > I completely understand your position on this.

Re: T5: @ApplicationState is misleading - voters wanted!

2008-11-06 Thread Geoff Callender
Hi Howard, I completely understand your position on this. If any of the suggestions people have made in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TAP5-274 are on the right track then it's not a trivial task, so it would be better to get 5.0 out first. Cheers, Geoff On 06/11/2008, at 6:13 A

Re: T5: @ApplicationState is misleading - voters wanted!

2008-11-05 Thread Howard Lewis Ship
I don't see this as a "last chance" ... we can define a new annotation with a better name and deprecate @ApplicationState, but still support it indefinitely. I'm trying to stick to the absolutely essential work to get a release out; bad naming is ugly but workable. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:59 AM,

Re: T5: @ApplicationState is misleading - voters wanted!

2008-11-05 Thread Daniel Jue
Good Suggestion for ApplicationSessionObject. I usually don't like it when such a commonly used feature is changed this "late" in the game. My suggestion would be to have the old annotation deprecated for a while, with the new Annotation in place. Furthermore, if a new annotation for Application

Re: T5: @ApplicationState is misleading - voters wanted!

2008-11-05 Thread César Lesc
I think we must support both @ApplicationStateObject and the new annotation, but i suggest not to change de acronym ASO because is so widely used that would break a lot of useful searchs and is a common lingo in tapestry, so the new annotation may be @ApplicationSessionObject. César.

Re: T5: @ApplicationState is misleading - voters wanted!

2008-11-05 Thread Peter Stavrinides
Tapestry users" Sent: Wednesday, 5 November, 2008 3:30:18 PM GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, Bucharest, Istanbul Subject: T5: @ApplicationState is misleading - voters wanted! With the final version Tap 5.0 fast approaching, this may be the last chance to address issues of confusing terminol

T5: @ApplicationState is misleading - voters wanted!

2008-11-05 Thread Geoff Callender
With the final version Tap 5.0 fast approaching, this may be the last chance to address issues of confusing terminology. If you feel that the term @ApplicationState is misleading - that is, if you have ever felt that @ApplicationState implies a field will become shared between all users in