RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Janner
May 28, 2009 9:09 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble > From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] > Subject: RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble > > I believe there are some java options that control how the memory is >

RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Janner
To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble > From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] > Subject: RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble > > I believe there are some java options that control how the memory is > divided between the differ

RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-28 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] > Subject: RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble > > I believe there are some java options that control how the memory is > divided between the different generations. Not for PermGen - its size is controlled explic

RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Janner
> Any ideas how we can get a much larger PermSpace going? I believe there are some java options that control how the memory is divided between the different generations. I seem to remember a ratio option that you could look into. I had to do this for one implementation. Check the java documentati

RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Janner
I think the last one instantiated). Jeff -Original Message- From: Peter Crowther [mailto:peter.crowt...@melandra.com] Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 4:03 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List' Subject: RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble By the way, there's one other thing you *could* tr

RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-28 Thread Peter Crowther
> From: Henjo [mailto:henj...@gmail.com] > Thank you both for replying. The architecture is indeed x86 > (Windows 2003 > server) and changing OS is not an option right now (going live soon). The alternative view: You can go live with a known-unreliable system, or you can change OS and go live wit

RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-28 Thread Henjo
Caldarale, Charles R wrote: > > > It's also irrelevant. The heap size (-Xmx + -XX:MaxPermSize) must fit in > a contiguous area of virtual memory within the process. On a 32-bit > Windows system, the process space is 2 GB, unfortunately very fragmented > by DLLs that Windows insists on scatter

RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-27 Thread Peter Crowther
> From: Henjo [henj...@gmail.com] > OS is Windows 2003. x86 or x64? > Available RAM is 3.5Gb on the machine, so that's not a problem. I assume x86 from that sizing. As Chuck points out, you won't get the space you want given Windows' appalling memory use. > Any ideas how we can get a much lar

RE: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble

2009-05-27 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Henjo [mailto:henj...@gmail.com] > Subject: MaxPermSize, Tomcat startup trouble > > AFAIK the PermSpace holds all compiled java classes (and jsps) in RAM. No; it holds the java.lang.Class instances that represent the loaded classes (including JSPs). Size of a class file on disk has *not