Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-05 Thread John Smith
All, Thanks for the thoughtful advice and replies. To answer a few questions, belatedly, yes it would be an option to move the admin tools to another instance of TC, as Leo suggested -- in a way a better one, since it wouldn't need session replication, could exist on a single server since the traf

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-04 Thread Ognjen Blagojevic
Chris, On 4.8.2014 22:47, Christopher Schultz wrote: Encryption is more expensive than /not/ encrypting, but it's much harder on the server (many connections) than it is on the client (single-digit). Since these days, everyone is disabling compression for SSL, the biggest problem for a dial-up c

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Mark, On 8/4/14, 11:34 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: > On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 07:54:03PM -0400, David Kerber wrote: >> On 8/1/2014 6:06 PM, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Why would you want to do that? Other than a few extra > server CPU cycles, w

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-04 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 07:54:03PM -0400, David Kerber wrote: > On 8/1/2014 6:06 PM, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > >>> Why would you want to do that? Other than a few extra server CPU > >>> cycles, > >>> what's the harm in allowing SSL anywhere at the client's discretion? > > > > I'm with Chuck on

RE: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-02 Thread Konstantin Preißer
Hi, > -Original Message- > From: John Smith [mailto:tomcat.ran...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 1, 2014 11:43 PM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Caldarale, Charles R < > chuck.

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-01 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 8/1/14 4:54 PM, David Kerber wrote: I don't think the problem is so much bandwidth as it is server CPU. Encryption and decryption are very cpu-intensive tasks. Not to mention client CPU. (Let's face it, if somebody's on dial-up, they're probably on an old, slow box, too. Like my G4 "bionic

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-01 Thread David Kerber
On 8/1/2014 6:06 PM, James H. H. Lampert wrote: Why would you want to do that? Other than a few extra server CPU cycles, what's the harm in allowing SSL anywhere at the client's discretion? I'm with Chuck on that one. From the docs: Also, while the SSL protocol was designed to be as effici

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-01 Thread Leo Donahue
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 1:55 PM, John Smith wrote: > In my webapp there's a directory '/admin' that's protected under SSL. Users > are forced to use SSL via a security constraint in web.xml. It works great. > > I would also agree with Chuck and James. Can you not move this admin app to another in

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-01 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 John, On 8/1/14, 5:43 PM, John Smith wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Caldarale, Charles R < > chuck.caldar...@unisys.com> wrote: > >>> From: John Smith [mailto:tomcat.ran...@gmail.com] Subject: >>> Restricting SSL access within webapp >>

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-01 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Why would you want to do that? Other than a few extra server CPU cycles, what's the harm in allowing SSL anywhere at the client's discretion? I'm with Chuck on that one. From the docs: Also, while the SSL protocol was designed to be as efficient as securely possible, encryption/decryption i

Re: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-01 Thread John Smith
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 4:34 PM, Caldarale, Charles R < chuck.caldar...@unisys.com> wrote: > > From: John Smith [mailto:tomcat.ran...@gmail.com] > > Subject: Restricting SSL access within webapp > > > What's the correct way to selectively restrict https to only one area of > a webapp? > > Why would

RE: Restricting SSL access within webapp

2014-08-01 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: John Smith [mailto:tomcat.ran...@gmail.com] > Subject: Restricting SSL access within webapp > What's the correct way to selectively restrict https to only one area of a > webapp? Why would you want to do that? Other than a few extra server CPU cycles, what's the harm in allowing SSL a